We'll have Zen moments... and we will put pressure on NVIDIA, said Intel CEO.
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butjer1010
AMD doesn't need Big-Little cores....Yet. Their 16 only "BIG" cores are consuming less power than intels 8 big and 8 little!
Krizby
Yeah let see if Intel can pull another Core 2 Duo this time around
LEEc337
But pat AMD are part of the hsa group and their early apus worked in a heterogenous system
IceVip
Waiting for that glue moment
h9dlb
I'll believe it when I see it - Remember AMD with their "Nvidia killer" threats with Big Navi?
Don't forget the Shintel tax
Catspaw
Honestly, I dont care what he says, but I love that he says what he does:
If he is right, better products, more competition, better prices.
If he is wrong, better memes, more laughs, better humor.
Kaarme
Fediuld
Denial
JamesSneed
TimmyP
Loobyluggs
"We'll have Zen moments"
I think you just had a "senior moment", sir.
I get his point, though. Intel does need another 'sandybridge' moment, but I do not think "Zen" is really a term he should be saying, when they are so far behind the curve, they would need to completely and totally double the metrics for perf.
Like Sandybridge did.
Krizby
Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad) that Intel took back the performance crown from Athlon 64 X2 and had been doling out the beating on AMD until now.
Actually it was the Core microarchitecture (Denial
Sandybridge was a good chip but it didn't even come close to doubling performance.. it's largest improvement was its ability to overclock but even overclocked to 4.8ghz it wasn't doubling performance
schmidtbag
fantaskarsef
Buzzword interviews... like watching Lisa Su on Bloomberg TV with closed captioning...
[insert "they are the same picture" meme]
waltc3
While Intel is having its Zen moment, AMD will be having its Zen-4 moment--or maybe even its Zen 5 moment, depending on when Intel ships Alder Lake, I suppose. Be nice when Intel decides to provide a firm ship date, won't it?
tunejunky
i think mr. Gelsinger is great.
confidence is key in righting an adrift ship (err...umm... a money making adrift ship).
but pc enthusiast press buried the lede.
the lede is contract fabbing.
while TSMC was able to apply new ARM processes and techniques working hand in hand with vendors and suppliers to x86, Intel got caught behind being complacent.
but mr. Gelsinger is absolutely correct when he says over a third of Enterprise wants x86 solutions for infrastructure compatibility. and about that number of clients have approached him for custom silicon. and that's where the money is.
buried even further was mr. Gelsinger's point about outsourcing silicon for certain products like consumer cpu's and TSMC was specifically mentioned. we already know that Intel has licensed patents from TSMC and that some silicon would be fabbed there.
what this says to me is that Intel's new process(es) are not price competitive in the low margin world of (most) consumer cpus. while Intel is the second largest fab (by a mile) they realized that capital intensive development is necessary to achieve the scale required to compete and potentially win. THAT's where the Biden Administration's new Defense contract comes in.
but because shareholders are strictly "what have you done for me lately", (imho) outsourcing I-3's and I-5's make a lot of sense as there is very little margin.
I-7's and I-9's are more halo products, but i wouldn't be surprised if mobile was outsourced too.
Venix
Everybody remember the sandy bridge moment , while the sb was the nail in the coffin i do not agree it was the winner one ! The win came 1 generation earlier with Nehalem since amd finally managed to catch up to intels core 2 with their phenom2 ... Then if i remember right 2-3 months later nahelem with the corei7 920 and higher models came along and laid ruins ... Sandy was a big leap but the war was already won by nahelem a long time ago especially since those puppies where clocking with fsb incriments still !
Loobyluggs