Valve to release Steam Deck gaming handheld with AMD APU in December

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It look like a switch, but Steam is not Nintendo... Also we can already stream PC game on mobile or tablet (without Steam bloatware). So i guess it will finish with the Steam machine, Steam OS and VR set in the "good idea but..." closet after a year or so.
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Can you install Windows on it?
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Am I the only one that wants a Steam Controller 2 based on the controls of this thing? (I bet I am not, but that I will get a lot of hate here :P )
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There is one positive thing about these handhelds, they keep 16:10 alive 🙂
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in before to be retired after 1 year...
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rl66:

It look like a switch, but Steam is not Nintendo... Also we can already stream PC game on mobile or tablet (without Steam bloatware). So i guess it will finish with the Steam machine, Steam OS and VR set in the "good idea but..." closet after a year or so.
I don't know about iPhones, never had one, but Android phones have plenty of Google bloatware, and then potentially another great dose from the phone manufacturer. I also wouldn't dream of playing the vast majority of the games in my Steam library with the controls a phone offers (because it offers next to nothing). If you wanted to fix that, you'd need to buy an extra controller for your phone. You'd also 100% depend on an excellent connection every second of your gameplay, and in fact also during the cutscenes. You also better have an unlimited mobile plan of enough speed. I don't have much faith in the game stream services. This device could be a hit or miss. Since it's a PC, being able to throw Linux or Windows on it could give it some extra help.
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PrMinisterGR:

Am I the only one that wants a Steam Controller 2 based on the controls of this thing? (I bet I am not, but that I will get a lot of hate here 😛 )
It already exist, it is called PS controller or XBox controller (and it is less expensive).
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KissSh0t:

Can you install Windows on it?
Yep
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rl66:

It already exist, it is called PS controller or XBox controller (and it is less expensive).
Yeah, no. The DS4 is completely different than the Xbox controller. It has touch surfaces and motion controls. The Steam Controller has fully programmable haptics. I play every game with trackpads and I don't even need to lift my hands from them. There is no comparison. The controls on this one reminded me of a perhaps updated version of the Steam controller. I wonder how it presents itself to Steam Input.
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Valve copied something what other where doing for years or was too slow launch it quickly. Its simply Aya Neo with more cumbersome controls and less compact dimensions.. Aya should be now $699 device and has full 6 cores.. and 1TB model option, so pricing is ~ same, good luck with unless 399$ 64GB model, is not enough even to keep Win10 after few years of usage.. and will not able to use hibernation(other 16GB of disc space). Steam Deck is far from ideal, even 512 GB is too small, im using for similar thing GPD Win2 with 512GB is too small. No physical keyboard- PC without physical keyboard always sucks - GPD Win2 has one that form factor is better, GPD Win 3 keyboard sucks and GPD2 is now too small, but there are alternative - see bellow. SteamOS sucks too, Windows support would be probably unofficial, same as Android support for multiboot. Winner is One Gx1 Pro - has everything and its faster - because new Intel GPUs are actually faster than these AMD ones, only big flaw is price tag - 1500$, but is price for better device, it even have 4g modem option.. Steam Deck is cheaper, but Switch is even cheaper and has game size and HW adjusted games, even when its much slower on HW side.. From my perspective too cheap to be good, Valve should make something better and maybe and MS and Sony sell it with some money loss or make better deals with HW producers than tiny companies doing some things for years. So main good sing is that mobile PC games will became real thing.. if Valve would be in business and it would force game companies to support slower machines and make wider range of performance related setting in their games..
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ruthan:

Winner is One Gx1 Pro - has everything and its faster - because new Intel GPUs are actually faster than these AMD ones
This Steam thing has an RDNA2 iGPU paired with DDR5. You can't compare it to any device you could currently buy, aside from the new gen consoles, to have any sense of the graphics performance. I'd be surprised if Intel Iris Xe with DDR4 is faster.
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We will see, but faster memory with slower timings could be only slightly faster.. Is somewhere exact mem speed, because DDR4 4200 is quite fast and only because its named DDR5, doesn't necessary means that it would be faster.
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Hmm and that size - 298 x 117 x 49mm, good luck to find some pocket for it, 5 cm thich.. you would need some notebook backpack for it.. so whole handheld usage is problematic.. Remember PS Vita and its size? I know smaller size device can have sucks nice specs, but original GPD Win2 - was reasonable - 162x99x25mm nice pocket thing, is Valve thing is other home tablet with controller.. Even switch had at least clever removable joycons to shrink device sice for transportation.. This looks same waste of space as Atari Lynx.
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ruthan:

We will see, but faster memory with slower timings could be only slightly faster.. Is somewhere exact mem speed, because DDR4 4200 is quite fast and only because its named DDR5, doesn't necessary means that it would be faster.
The speed is 5500, but who knows about the timings. Somebody would need to install Windows on it and run CPU-Z to check them out, haha. However, both the AMD CPU and iGPU would greatly benefit from the speed.
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TheDeeGee:

There is one positive thing about these handhelds, they keep 16:10 alive 🙂
The closest resolution to the golden ratio...it must not be destroyed.
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ruthan:

Valve copied something what other where doing for years or was too slow launch it quickly. Its simply Aya Neo with more cumbersome controls and less compact dimensions.. Aya should be now $699 device and has full 6 cores.. and 1TB model option, so pricing is ~ same, good luck with unless 399$ 64GB model, is not enough even to keep Win10 after few years of usage.. and will not able to use hibernation(other 16GB of disc space). Steam Deck is far from ideal, even 512 GB is too small, im using for similar thing GPD Win2 with 512GB is too small. No physical keyboard- PC without physical keyboard always sucks - GPD Win2 has one that form factor is better, GPD Win 3 keyboard sucks and GPD2 is now too small, but there are alternative - see bellow. SteamOS sucks too, Windows support would be probably unofficial, same as Android support for multiboot. Winner is One Gx1 Pro - has everything and its faster - because new Intel GPUs are actually faster than these AMD ones, only big flaw is price tag - 1500$, but is price for better device, it even have 4g modem option.. Steam Deck is cheaper, but Switch is even cheaper and has game size and HW adjusted games, even when its much slower on HW side.. From my perspective too cheap to be good, Valve should make something better and maybe and MS and Sony sell it with some money loss or make better deals with HW producers than tiny companies doing some things for years. So main good sing is that mobile PC games will became real thing.. if Valve would be in business and it would force game companies to support slower machines and make wider range of performance related setting in their games..
The whole point of this thing is that you can use your steam library without any extra issue. Most of the games support steam controller anyway if they do it surely isn't a problem to remap them to this handheld. Its basically just a travel version of your PC, I would be more interested to see how long it actually lasts on batteries. Also, I don't think PS vita really failed due to size, If I remember correctly it failed because there were very few games to play on it and you couldn't play games from PSP.
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Loobyluggs:

The closest resolution to the golden ratio...it must not be destroyed.
16:9 is for TVs, shoo! 😛
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When you watch the video, Gabe comes across as all nonchalant about the product. But then I guess thats just him. Its getting pretty dynamic out there. Everyone's getting ready to chump everyone else's train. I guess we could end up with Winstroid 64bit OS echo system. 😉
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TheDeeGee:

16:9 is for TVs, shoo! 😛
teevee is 1.7878787878787878(etc):1 16:10 is literally 1.6:1 The golden ratio is 1.618(etc):1 and therefore 16:10 is closer to the golden ratio and also allows for greater image vertical quality, regardless of the black borders. It's a better picture.