TSMC starts volume production of 7nm chips with euv machines in March
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HardwareCaps
Apple's new SOC is coming
icedman
Hopefully this along with some architecture improvements will help amd a bit more considering even current 7nm AMD cant touch Nvidias 12/16nm.
labidas
FrostNixon
Kaarme
If Navi is still GCN, I'll be ready for a disappointment.
2080 performance would be absolutely fabulous from Navi. I'd reckon 2070 far more realistic, yet I'm not sure it'll be even that. If it's GCN, then probably not. Assuming, of course, the rumours are true and an enthusiast Navi won't be appearing (it wouldn't be cheap, though).
Fox2232
Andy Watson
"ASML, which provides extreme ultraviolet (EUV) litho equipment, is looking to ship a total of 30 EUV systems in 2019. Of the units to be shipped, 18 have already been reserved by TSMC, the sources indicated
ASML and TSMC are on a roll, obviously TSMC are limited currently, seems they have the orders in to up production at 7nm. I wonder where the other 12 are going?
Talking about 5nm while Intel still stuck on 14.....
ttnuagmada
The Reeferman
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/6713-14nm-16nm-10nm-7nm-what-we-know-now.html
"Intel's 14nm process is significantly denser than the competing processes from GF/SS and TSMC, >1.5x. It has taken roughly 3 years for SS and TSMC to introduce 10nm processes that are only slightly denser than Intel's 14nm process.
Later this year when Intel introduces their 10nm process they will again take the process density lead, ~1.7x denser until TSMC's releases their 7nm process with slightly better density.(old 2017 data, Intel ran into 10nm problems)
When TSMC introduces their 7nm process they will have a 1.13x density advantage over Intel's 10nm process. In late 2018 Samsung is later expected to introduce their 7nm process with 1.23x the density of Intel's 10nm process, also later in 2018 TSMC will introduce 7+ with a further density improvement.
Intel's 10nm is more similar to TSMC and GF/SS 7nm processes than to the competing 10nm processes. Even though Intel has a significant density advantage at each node the forthcoming 7nm foundry process will likely pass Intel for process density and maintain that yield for at least a few years.
That's something I hear often but how accurate is it??
Let's find out.
TSMC 7nm has higher transistor density then intel 10nm, about 14%.
some(old) info from : FM57
@The Reeferman: Thanks, excellent post. I was wondering about Intel, and you made my day. Brilliant.
Astyanax
awesome, then we're all set for a July/August refresh of Turin on 7nm EUV.
Fox2232
JamesSneed
Astyanax
Aura89
fantaskarsef
I'm curious ho w 7nm Zen2 will look... tbh more so than Navi on 7nm.
Aura89