SUPER series GeForce RTX 30 likely arrive in January 2022, GeForce RTX 40 in October 2022

Horus-Anhur

2021-09-09 14:12

Nice. I can already see them. One 3060 Super for 1000 euros. Miners and scalpers will be super pleased with this launch.

#5945127

Airbud

2021-09-09 14:22

January 2021? Edit: Whew!...glad you fixed the typo Boss!...I thought I woke up in 2020 again!...that was a nightmare year. Now I'm happy again!...:p

#5945130

Undying

2021-09-09 14:38

They already have Ti variants of each card whats the point of super?

#5945132

Horus-Anhur

2021-09-09 14:43

Undying:

They already have Ti variants of each card whats the point of super?

To increase the price, again.

#5945135

TestDriver

2021-09-09 14:49

Was just going to write that Horus-Anhur, new cards with greater profit, given the market, they will sell..

#5945139

Undying

2021-09-09 14:54

Horus-Anhur:

To increase the price, again.

i have a feeling we will never see a 3050/3050ti but 3090 super instead lol.

#5945140

H83

2021-09-09 14:54

Horus-Anhur:

To increase the price, again.

Even bigger prices??? F*** that!

#5945141

Dragam1337

2021-09-09 14:55

If people are smart, then they will wait for 4000 series... unless you desperately need a new gpu right now. Always a horrible deal buying a gpu mid-late cycle.

#5945145

Horus-Anhur

2021-09-09 15:04

I already share this story on another thread, but I share it again, because it's a bit relevant here. A couple of days ago, my MB stopped working. So I had to buy another. Went to a store to buy one, started talking to the guy in charge. I look that a corner and there's a bunch of RTX 3080. I inquire about them, and the guy just says those boxes are empty. But we got plenty of them in the warehouse. It's 1500 euros, each. And the look of disappointment, when he realized that I was a gamer and not a miner.... There are a lot of GPUs out there, but most stores, importers and warehouses, are holding them back, so they can charge huge premiums.

#5945146

cucaulay malkin

2021-09-09 15:06

dafuq that's 8 months ago

#5945148

cucaulay malkin

2021-09-09 15:13

haste:

If it's made by Samsung, I'm not interested. Their manufacturing node sucks.

it's not the node it's g6x ampere on g6 is as efficient as rdna2.maybe slightly more.compare 6700xt vs 3070. [SPOILER] https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt/images/power-gaming.png https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png[/SPOILER] g6x is both extremely power hungry and hard to cool down. a g103 die with 85% of 3080 performance,16G G6 non-x at 250W would be an instant hit.even 10g g6.

#5945162

insp1re2600

2021-09-09 16:06

Horus-Anhur:

I already share this story on another thread, but I share it again, because it's a bit relevant here. A couple of days ago, my MB stopped working. So I had to buy another. Went to a store to buy one, started talking to the guy in charge. I look that a corner and there's a bunch of RTX 3080. I inquire about them, and the guy just says those boxes are empty. But we got plenty of them in the warehouse. It's 1500 euros, each. And the look of disappointment, when he realized that I was a gamer and not a miner.... There are a lot of GPUs out there, but most stores, importers and warehouses, are holding them back, so they can charge huge premiums.

cool story bro, could you tell it a third time? usually held back for custom builds etc, than individual sales.

#5945165

tunejunky

2021-09-09 16:12

sticking with a monolithic die for 4xxx could provide AMD with the opening they need if they are smart, not greedy. AMD is continuing to cut its cost of production by investing in next gen manufacturing processes to the point that Intel will be outsourcing production for many consumer lines and parts (like modems and ethernet controllers) including lower end cpus. MCM is a continuing part of that and Nvidia just doesn't have technology to scale. so if AMD can hold off from flashier quarterlies for a year they can lower prices (or have a MSRP that sticks) while increasing output from the same number of wafers. they have greater efficiency and greater yield already, when they add more wafers to a longer production run economies of scale kicks in. if Nvidia was in the same place as AMD technologically (other than uArch) Nvidia would raise, not lower prices. but since Nvidia dominates this market i expect AMD to play this much differently than CPU. i expect them to leverage every advantage to gain market share.

#5945170

fantaskarsef

2021-09-09 16:32

The span until the next gen GPUs is way too long, they will be way too expensive, and there's nothing we can do about it.

#5945171

Sentenced

2021-09-09 16:34

Super expensive and/or unavailable. Can't wait!

#5945175

tunejunky

2021-09-09 16:47

btw... i laughed myself silly with the Pat Gelsinger presser when he was angling to fab Nvidia

#5945176

Kaarme

2021-09-09 16:52

tunejunky:

sticking with a monolithic die for 4xxx could provide AMD with the opening they need if they are smart, not greedy. AMD is continuing to cut its cost of production by investing in next gen manufacturing processes to the point that Intel will be outsourcing production for many consumer lines and parts (like modems and ethernet controllers) including lower end cpus. MCM is a continuing part of that and Nvidia just doesn't have technology to scale. so if AMD can hold off from flashier quarterlies for a year they can lower prices (or have a MSRP that sticks) while increasing output from the same number of wafers. they have greater efficiency and greater yield already, when they add more wafers to a longer production run economies of scale kicks in. if Nvidia was in the same place as AMD technologically (other than uArch) Nvidia would raise, not lower prices. but since Nvidia dominates this market i expect AMD to play this much differently than CPU. i expect them to leverage every advantage to gain market share.

I'd agree with your analysis, but I fear in practice mining will remain a problem that will still totally mess up the whole GPU market. If it does, AMD won't be able to do anything about the prices, and thus won't be able to try to gain market share that way (because the AIB partners and stores won't lower prices). If the MCM cards are mining monsters, it will be all the more out of AMD's hands. If the new fabs only start running in 2023, they won't help for a long time. Nothing would make me happier than being proven wrong, naturally.

#5945178

Solfaur

2021-09-09 16:59

Better start saving now... 🙄

#5945187

Ub3rslay3r

2021-09-09 17:31

Kaarme:

I'd agree with your analysis, but I fear in practice mining will remain a problem that will still totally mess up the whole GPU market. If it does, AMD won't be able to do anything about the prices, and thus won't be able to try to gain market share that way (because the AIB partners and stores won't lower prices). If the MCM cards are mining monsters, it will be all the more out of AMD's hands. If the new fabs only start running in 2023, they won't help for a long time. Nothing would make me happier than being proven wrong, naturally.

With Ethereum aiming to fully transition to proof of stake within the next several months we may very well get a reprieve from mining. That takes both Bitcoin and Ethereum out of play and the market cap for other GPU mine-able coins is far lower. If much of the Ethereum hash rate moves to any of the other alt coins, then the value of the alt coin will almost certainly tank making it unprofitable to mine. I would not be surprised if GPU mining is no longer much of a factor by this time next year.

#5945197

Dribble

2021-09-09 17:59

Undying:

i have a feeling we will never see a 3050/3050ti but 3090 super instead lol.

From a business standpoint what's the point of spending some of your precious capacity on lower end, lower margin chips when you can't even come close to making enough higher end higher margin chips, and those lower end customers can still be served by last gen products.