Successor to Intel LGA 1200 will be LGA 1700, another processor socket for Desktop CPUs
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nevcairiel
A lot of new pins, I hope they also increase the 16 PCIe lane business. At least 20 like AMD has would be nice, since PCIe SSDs are ubiquitous now, 24 would be even better.
cryohellinc
1200 → 1700, quote the jump. I wonder what happened to the other 500 in between?
sverek
Not just yet another new socket, but a yet another new socket with much pins!
jbmcmillan
cryohellinc
https://i.imgur.com/i9eNcwD.png
Kaarme
Intel customers are used to needing to buy a new motherboard. The socket can be 100% identical or significantly different, it doesn't matter, Intel will require a new motherboard on principle.
nizzen
icedman
And this is why the last time i bought an Intel cpu was when i could upgrade my sandy bridge 2500k to an ivy bridge 3770k. ive now had a r51600 and a r52600 and i plan on going to a 3600 if the 4600 isn't socket compatible but it looks like it might be, That's 4 series on 1 motherboard so potentially 3 wasted motherboards had i gone Intel.
Shakey_Jake33
Was really hoping that Intel would learn from AMD's success here. The main reason I moved from Intel to AMD this year was the forward compatibility of the AM4 socket. After being stuck on Haswell for years with no upgrade path, it was the fact that I could upgrade from my new Ryzen 7 2700 to a 3000 or even 4000 CPU without needing a new motherboard and RAM which convinced me to move over - this is my first AMD CPU since Athlon 64.
If there's a technical reason to change the socket, then fine. But otherwise, AMD are only going to benefit from these cynical practices.
slyphnier
BReal85
Remember when the few remaining Intel defenders shouted that X570 mobos are so pricey. 😀 Yet customers had (have) the CHOICE of buying a cheaper X470, B450, or even X370 or B350 mobo for the Zen 2 CPUs. If you want to buy the newer Intel CPU, no matter what you want, you NEED to buy the newer mobo too.
1. AM4 is said to last at least until 2020. This means that the Zen 3 CPUs will probably work in the B360, X370 motherboards too. So the AM4 motherboards will be valid for around 3,5 years.
2. What do you get from an X570 mobo compared to an X470 or even a B450 mobo? I mean, get something means get something that is relevant and has advantages.
3. You criticize X570 not compatible with older Ryzen CPUs. I ask you this: why would anyone buy a more expensive motherboard to put a cheaper and older Ryzen CPU in it?
4. "not all X370/B350 support ryzen2" As far as I know, this is not AMD's fault, this is the fault of the mobo partners that don't provide BIOS updates to specific X370/B350 mobos. Yet, this is still a 3 generation old mobo for the newest CPU.
Silva
Shakey_Jake33
Oh true, most people only upgrade CPU every 4 years or so. But I think for anybody currently on, say, a Ryzen 2000 CPU might see value in upgrading to a Ryzen 4000 when those CPUs become a little cheaper in 1.5 or 2 years time. It's imperfect but progress over the situation that Intel left us in. My ASUS PRIME B450M-A board was designed for 2000 series yet supports everything up to 3950X with 4000 support supposedly coming. That's pretty good going for people like me who have to upgrade on a budget and thus buying a new board is not trivial (that's why I bought a fire sale 2700 and overclocked to 4GHz rather than a 3000 series - on a budget).
I honestly just want Intel to compete with AMD to keep the pressure on AMD, and vice versa. We all win then.
asturur
This will have DDR5 at this point, that could be the reason behind more pins.
Maybe triple channel?
You do not add 500 pins just for feeding current...
Or maybe i m getting it wrong and 1700 is not the pin number.
rl66
rl66
BLEH!
The YADS approach (Yet Another Desktop Socket) or maybe YAS (Yet Another Socket), YAS works better, it's a TLA. We like TLAs.
H83
It says on text that the CPU is going to be rectangular in order to house two dies at the same time, does this mean Intel is going to bring back CPUs like the Core2Duo/Quad of the past??? I still have my beloved Q9550!
Kaarme
jwb1
By the looks of it, this should definitely help with heat reduction.