Store publishes benchmarks of the Core i9-12900KF, i7-12700KF and i5-12600KF
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mackintosh
And yet gaming benchmark leaks are conspicuously absent with just a little over a month till it's released.
Undying
That is interesting becouse Intel always brags about their gaming performance.
mackintosh
I just don't get it. If you had a part that would Conroe Ryzen then you'd be shouting it off mountain tops. Intel was leaking like a sieve with every generation and yet here with Alder Lake they're suddenly tighter than Apple under Jobs? Unless they're so sure of their gaming performance all they care about is taking away the multithreading crown from the 5950X. Weird. All of it.
JamesSneed
That's the funny thing about repeating lies people think well its the same lie so its more likely to be true. I hope its true as we need Intel back competing but lets not believe it because it matches what we saw before, as they could have used the information from the prior leak to try to sell CPU's.
D1stRU3T0R
Can't be real. The single core it too high for one generation leak. They would market it much more if this would be real.
Mineria
Thing is, with my 4790K loading into Windows topped 60C with a 240 rad, my 3700x around 65C with a 360 rad, the 5800x goes to around 80C+ with the freezer 2 360.
On Windows 11 that got worse, power saver plan stopped working after running a game, so ended up turning off boost and PBO, will try to tweak with CTR and see if it can manage to balance for better temperatures with the boost enabled.
Are the 10k-11k series not as easy to manage as previous gen Intel CPU's?
AMD is a shit show compared to what I am used to, lot more tweaking required just to run default stock and boost without heating up the entire house, reminds me about the later gen P3's.
cucaulay malkin
benchmark points were there,but real life performance suffered due to backport.
mackintosh
@Mineria Yeah, they run hot. The 5900X is my first AMD CPU in over a decade and I was quite surprised by its cooling requirements. I was used to my Intels not breaking a sweat until they were really pushed to the edge of their envelope. Actually had to modify my loops a little for the first time in 8 years.
Ryu5uzaku
That is not even remotely "conroed" level. Sure the single thread is good jump.
Horus-Anhur
Conroe was a 40% difference in IPC, between A64 and Conroe.
That's not very different from what those benchs show in IPC terms.
waltc3
Until these Alder Lake CPUs ship, no one knows anything about them, really. I find it interesting that we are approaching the 4th quarter of the calendar year and Intel still hasn't furnished a ship date.
mackintosh
A slight delay in shipping might explain the lack of proper "leaks".
CPC_RedDawn
I highly doubt they will be get conroed again so soon.
Remember that back then AMD wasn't well known outside the enthusiast PC space and Intel had more or less a stranglehold on the market. Althons were all the rage with people like us but outside that it was Pentium 4 netburst that ruled the sales.
AMD are in a much much stronger position these days, the underdog made its scrappy come back, their branding is stronger and we are in a different time as well with more people into tech than there was in 2005/2006 when conroe launched.
And AMD are also in a much stronger position to fight back this time thanks to that added brand recognition, insane sales and market share gains. 3D stacked cache will be their next "infinity fabric moment" with Zen 4.
moab600
I have a feeling that Zen 3 refresh won't be just 3D Cache but another surprise... which seems AMD needs as Zen 4 is a bit far away.
@man_daddio
Well we knew the AMD wasn't going to be on top forever. The only way they can really go now is smaller and maybe a few more small tweaks. You can only improve a chip so much.
And the new CEO of Intel made it very clear that he wants to spread all fingers out and dig in the heels. Intel will be coming back with a vengeance.
They got the money. They got the facilities. They still have the market. They can lower prices which they have been now for several months. And they got some pretty good brains on board now.
I bought a new computer recently but I couldn't get my hands on any real AMD hardware that I wanted. Plus what I wanted was way overpriced. So instead of paying $1,200 for the AMD top chip I essentially paid $400 for a 10 core chip and got an RTX 3090 along with it.
If Intel keeps the prices low then that's what the majority of people are going to go for I think. Especially with the cost of gpus. The lower prices offset what you might spend on a good GPU.
That is just my thoughts though.
Horus-Anhur
I agree. That's why I think those benchs are too good to be true.
Previously leaked bench results, didn't show such a big difference.
msroadkill612
Even IF, just this once, alleged Intel numbers resemble reality, there is more to big picture competing than having the best mascot.
The killer is that AMD architecture allows their hamburger to compete w/ Intel's prime cuts.
AMD's desktop processors are what remains after the best have been selected for their booming, high margin & core count HEDT & servers.
Intel being perennially late to the party makes it easy for amd to profitably counter with better perf/$ in the market.
MegaFalloutFan
dunno, if its true ill be happy to upgrade my Creation x570 + 5950x to 12900K, first to go home to intel and forget about AMD and all the issues and annoyances this platform has and second, for higher single core.
Also i hope for more PCIe lanes, looks like they have a lot of 3 generations
Ryu5uzaku
Do not be fooled by the graphs the difference is more like 20%. 5950x has 1650 ish points in single thread and that best intel has 2000. That is like 18-19% difference.
kapu
It's easy to speculate why that is the case. Gaming performance is lower than Zen3.
