Sometimes i don't understand gamers logic and lack of common sense. After all the problems many ppl had buying games on pre-order and been delivered broken, beta or even alpha stage games on launch some ppl never stop to amaze me in the bad sense. Now (i guess) the same blindfolded gamers make a DLC for an UNFINISHED Early Access game the most sold game this week! :bang: I own ARK: Survival Evolved but i'm certainly not encouraging the game dev to put effort on PAID DLC by buying it until they finish the core features and polish the base game! It's simply a very bad precedent because in this case there is no Steam refund for Early Access games...

Sometimes i don't understand gamers logic and lack of common sense. After all the problems many ppl had buying games on pre-order and been delivered broken, beta or even alpha stage games on launch some ppl never stop to amaze me in the bad sense. Now (i guess) the same blindfolded gamers make a DLC for an UNFINISHED Early Access game the most sold game this week! :bang: I own ARK: Survival Evolved but i'm certainly not encouraging the game dev to put effort on PAID DLC by buying it until they finish the core features and polish the base game! It's simply a very bad precedent because in this case there is no Steam refund for Early Access games...

I'm dumbfounded too... maybe it's because each year brings a new wave of young customers who are not yet used to all these scams

Sometimes i don't understand gamers logic and lack of common sense. After all the problems many ppl had buying games on pre-order and been delivered broken, beta or even alpha stage games on launch some ppl never stop to amaze me in the bad sense. Now (i guess) the same blindfolded gamers make a DLC for an UNFINISHED Early Access game the most sold game this week! :bang: I own ARK: Survival Evolved but i'm certainly not encouraging the game dev to put effort on PAID DLC by buying it until they finish the core features and polish the base game! It's simply a very bad precedent because in this case there is no Steam refund for Early Access games...

Couldn't have said it better myself. I will admit to being guilty of pre-ordering but this is just ludicrous. Last time I fired up this game it ran like a bag of smashed arseholes no matter what settings I used. Certainly don't have any right to be charging for "new content"

GTA5 still going strong after all this time. I have to play it what am i waiting for lol

GTA5 still going strong after all this time. I have to play it what am i waiting for lol

No believe me you really don't have to play it, Broken matchmaking system attached to the cheapest most unreliable peer to peer connection system I've ever seen. A toxic fanbase that at best is bone head stupid and at worse the most abusive bunch of cretins you will ever encounter. A game about driving in which the core driving physics are not even a close approximation of how cars handle, mass weight and gravity are all suggested factors when it comes to the cars but given that the car handling isn't even consistent, seriously cars handle drastically differently based on your connection to the host and your proximity to other drivers. Broken game mechanics that are themselves actually broken. The catch up system for example is broken in how it is designed to work but even at that it doesn't work correctly half the time anyway, i.e the broken game mechanic is itself broken. The same goes for the drafting effect which actually was taken from a comedy clown car and while Rockstar have indeed continued to release updates for the game you will notice that the underlying cost of these updates has risen exponentially vs the benefit of owning said product. For example the Zentorno was 1million but will hold it's own in races vs the newer cars which cost upwards and over 2million. If you do buy it, buy it when it is cheap and buy it for the solo story do not buy this game for the multiplayer it is an utter mess of half botched game mechanics, never ending DLCs and half baked gameplay ideas oh and I've heard the PC version is hacker city and Rockstar shockingly couldn't give two f*cks.

I know bl2 was on sale, but if game sells that good after 4 years since release (tho, goty is like 3 years old), that only means how newer games suck... Well, I guess I will include this in my answer why bl2 deserves permanent spot on my HDD

No believe me you really don't have to play it, Broken matchmaking system attached to the cheapest most unreliable peer to peer connection system I've ever seen. A toxic fanbase that at best is bone head stupid and at worse the most abusive bunch of cretins you will ever encounter. A game about driving in which the core driving physics are not even a close approximation of how cars handle, mass weight and gravity are all suggested factors when it comes to the cars but given that the car handling isn't even consistent, seriously cars handle drastically differently based on your connection to the host and your proximity to other drivers. Broken game mechanics that are themselves actually broken. The catch up system for example is broken in how it is designed to work but even at that it doesn't work correctly half the time anyway, i.e the broken game mechanic is itself broken. The same goes for the drafting effect which actually was taken from a comedy clown car and while Rockstar have indeed continued to release updates for the game you will notice that the underlying cost of these updates has risen exponentially vs the benefit of owning said product. For example the Zentorno was 1million but will hold it's own in races vs the newer cars which cost upwards and over 2million. If you do buy it, buy it when it is cheap and buy it for the solo story do not buy this game for the multiplayer it is an utter mess of half botched game mechanics, never ending DLCs and half baked gameplay ideas oh and I've heard the PC version is hacker city and Rockstar shockingly couldn't give two f*cks.

Well i always buy my games for the single player experience and this is no exception but thanks for the heads up. Ill buy it once it reaches 15€ on steam probably during a sale or maybe ill use an external site for a key. The thing is, its gta, i have to check it sometime i cant let it pass.

Sometimes i don't understand gamers logic and lack of common sense. After all the problems many ppl had buying games on pre-order and been delivered broken, beta or even alpha stage games on launch some ppl never stop to amaze me in the bad sense.

Do you imagine buying semi-baked bread or even just the dough just because the baker said get it now and in a while it will be the best bread you ever tasted? Add to that the baker paying for some advertisement and... voila! Same logic applies. I'm enthusiast level my self in always for mid-graded/ranged stuff though, but... that's madness. I understand people have money, but giving them as easily your either hard or not so hard earned money is the reason to ruin everything. In a better world people who release such games should not exist anymore. Why don't they take a hint from Hollywood at the very least. I know, not the best example, but many times the most time and money they spend the more they earn. Time, quality actors, quality stuff etc. Now the gaming industry is like the gold rush era. I miss Super Nintendo with their near perfect games -saying near perfect I mean near glitch-less.

Do you imagine buying semi-baked bread or even just the dough just because the baker said get it now and in a while it will be the best bread you ever tasted? Add to that the baker paying for some advertisement and... voila! Same logic applies. I'm enthusiast level my self in always for mid-graded stuff though, but... that's madness.

Actually i understand it so let me fix it:

Sometimes i don't WANT to understand gamers logic and lack of common sense.

:(

I reckon I'm fairly older than most of you (started with a ZX Spectrum) but I still bought an early access game, Grim Dawn, and boy, did I not regret it. The thing is that you need to think before you buy. Rich, privileged software companies are not likely to put out anything worthwhile since they (rightly) expect the sheep to pay them for any old excrement simply based on the brand. Those people are brainless. On the other hand, I'd been following Grim Dawn since it was first announced with careful attention and today, it's damn near to my dream game. It's an action RPG that Diablo 3 was supposed to have been. It pushes all the buttons of old Diablo fans, offering depth, story and immersion. So, not all early access games are scams.

Old player here too, Spectrum, Amiga, MSX.I even played on a "primitive" PC (Amstrad PC1512):) I also bought Grim Dawn on EA, it's a fantastic game with a very good dev support. Ofc not all EA are scams but we must be specially skeptic if we are interested on these games and use some common sense...not buying DLCs for unfinished EA games!