Star Wars Battlefront II Buyers Have Complaints Lots Of Them (updated)
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Texter
Yeah it's an epic tale of epic proportions on Reddit...they may even be discussing it next week.
gerardfraser
Wow death threats over a game that is supposed to be fun.I do not get it and I probably never will.
ubercake
First, SW Battlefront is visually stunning and has great sound, but the lack of fun in the game play ruins all that. There was just something missing that I and a lot of other people just can't pinpoint. I tried to give it a chance and played for a couple of months and then I was done. No urge to go back.
Then the model was used for Battlefield 1. Mind you, I used to be a huge Battlefield series fan. I played BF3 and BF4 for years almost exclusively; no other games with the exception of Rocksmith/2014.
I thought EA taking over the Battlefield servers for Battlefield 1 would be a good thing from a fairness standpoint, but when they incorporated the lack of fun that went into SW Battlefront and the similar menu system, they ruined the series. I can't imagine buying Battlefront 2 as both series seem to have headed into parallel mediocre development paths.
On the positive side, it got me playing other titles. Titanfall / Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2 seem to have that fun factor that drained out of the SWBF and BF series.
BLEH!
The microtransaction thing is getting a bit out of hand, really. If you're paying £50/€50/$50 for a game (why do we always get ripped off here ? D: ) There shouldn't be any additional costs incurred beyond maybe fully fledged DLCs (I dislike "Season Passes", too for this reason). Greed, pure greed.
vbetts
Moderator
Man, Battlefront just can't get it right.
RavenMaster
If there's one thing you should never do as a publisher, its charge microtransactions in a game that isn't free to play.
A paid game + paid DLC is fine. A free to play game with microtransactions is fine but never try have your cake and it or customers will rebel.
Also the microtransactions should be purely aesthetic and NOT affect gameplay to the point where it becomes pay to win.
A lot of people rip into Dota for having hat casinos that encourage kids to gamble. True that's kinda shitty. But the one thing Valve got right is that every single item or chest they sell in the Dota shop has no effect on gameplay whatsoever. Their skins are cosmetic only.
Truder
Wtf is up with gamers?!
Gamers complained about EA being greedy offering shortcut kits which gave full access to weapons and gear without the need to play through levels and gameplay prerequisites in the battlefield series that led gamers to think that it's a cash grab which led to the uniform feeling that EA don't care, that they milk a franchise, kill off games with microtransactions - so in Battlefront 2, they rescind that policy in light of complaints made over the years and the playerbase go apesh*t and complain about that too?
Seriously? What the hell at the Battlefield/Battlefront playerbase...?? Get a grip!
Edit:My message has been unclear it seems (see my second post) and I don't appreciate the language used in replying to this, I'm referring to how for a long time the playerbase has criticised EA for it's policy on having it's pay2win model (since BF3 premeium/shortcut kits as an example), which while this hasn't changed, EA did remove a layer of the pay2win at the top tier and now the playerbase are also complaining about not being able to pay2win.
My opinion is either let the game play out how it used to such as back in BF2/2142, gain levels and perform objectives to unlock things, or if they are going to allow shortcut kits, do it fully, no half arsed attempt.
Finally, I agree EA has caused a fiasco in this and I'm not defending them at all, I'm criticising how overtime we have two camps of players these days - those that are willing to pay to avoid grind (and these are the ones that should be chastised for allowing this model to flourish) and those who quite rightly believe the game should be released as a whole with an intended gameplay designed into it - akin to BF2/2142 which has been very successful.
The only way EA will know of our criticism is if we show them with our wallets, don't feed the machine if you don't agree with the practices, I'm not (they're charging an arm and a leg for their games now anyway).
Barry J
I don't mind paying for a game and good DLC, but whoever thought that pay for a game then pay to win or grind away was a good idea is deluded.
I am pleased to see the uprising against EA and swbf2 I really hope other publishers are watching this disastrous game launch .
Agent-A01
schmidtbag
At this rate, gamers have absolutely no right to complain. EA is predictable with these products and anyone dumb enough to buy into their products (don't get me started on preorder...) and not know what they just bought themselves into deserves their "poor experience". EA pulls this crap because people are encouraging their behavior. If you're ok with what EA does and enjoy their products, great - you're not an idiot, because you either knew what you were getting into and were ok with it, or, you had no expectations and were satisfied anyway. EA obviously isn't intentionally making their products unlikable.
EA is not willing to lose their status as one of the biggest game publishers, so the only way to get them to make good products is to speak with your wallet and stop buying into franchises just because you like them. No Star Wars fan worth talking to is going to ridicule you just because you didn't buy a game. The point of liking a franchise is because you enjoy the content. You, as a fan, have no obligation to keep funding poorly made things.
Monchis
Man, the campaign is just pure fast food, a 4 hour walk in the park, no substance nor gameplay mechanics whatsoever. And the end is, let´s say it´s not there.
Ps.- sorry wrong thread
tsunami231
people with brains seeing what EA is doing unfortunately majority people are blind too this... if i paying 59$ or what for game. I anit gona get milked for more money in game too. at this point they should all just stop charging for games and make them all pay to play and pay again to continue playing.
Short of SWTOR that i bought on day one for 49$ and then sub right up to point it went f2p and this whole micro transaction cash shop bs kill the game quality, since f2p nothing has really been fix there 5 yea rold bugs not fix but cash shop bug/issue instantly fix. I have not bought a game EA in 10+ years because they more about milking things then making good games.
Truder
KissSh0t
Agent-A01
Rich_Guy
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JAMVA
They've reduced the number of points needed by 75% , But according to gameinformer website they've also reduced the amount of points they give you also by 75% 🙄 at least for the campaign anyway.
"completing the campaign earned players a unique loot crate that contained 20,000 credits. That reward is now 5,000 credits. A big change. What else is different? I need to find out."
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/11/13/wheres-our-star-wars-battlefront-ii-review.aspx
JamesSneed
The new paradigm is to build games as huge grind fests and offer perks that get you out of some if not all of the grind in exchange hard cash. I have a crazy idea, just make the game fun to play for hours on end. The old BF2 as in Battlefield 2 from 2005 was a nice example of a fun game with nice game play (course EA hand't bought Dice yet). I personally look for games that don't pull shenanigans and I really hope more do it as well so game developers stop this stupid nonsense.
Redemption80
Tbf, anyone who buys a game without researching only has themselves to blame.
Not that I believe this is in any way a good thing, but the sooner gamers realise gaming is a business, the sooner we get less of these deja vu threads.
Since selling a vanilla version of game for $100 plus is not the norm, did anyone think EA was going to not try to maximise revenue after paying who knows to Disney.
I have zero interest in MP games, but what's the best solution for bringing in money after a game has been released that doesn't piss off gamers?
Also, is it possible this is likely to sell really well, and this just the vocal minority as per usual.
XP-200
"A lot of people that pre-ordered Star Wars Battlefront II"
Some just never learn. 🙄