Shadow of the Tomb Raider: RTX and DLSS Update
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valrond
Can you make the Pascal GPUs with drivers 399.24? The 411 is known to cripple 1080 Ti results to that RTX 2080 looks better.
Dragam1337
My results are slightly higher with 411 compared to 399...
https://i.imgur.com/2q7KULH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Heba5IZ.jpg
nizzen
"known" in your're dizzy head?
allesclar
Great review, thanks Hilbert.
Domingo
For what it's worth, I've has stability issues with this game on an RTX 2080 Ti. I've seen several threads in the Steam forums with very similar problems. Device driver "stuck" crashes with no rhyme or reason to them. I have no idea if it's a particular setting (I've tried a bunch of different ones) or a driver thing, but it's frustrating to say the least.
In terms of performance, the RTX 2080 Ti definitely can't max everything and still hit 60fps (with vsync), but it can get pretty close. The key that prevents it seems to be the highest shadow setting. That one setting knocks my performance down by 15-20%. The higher AA settings can have a major effect, too.
Dj_ALeX
I just did a double pass with my GTX980 @1450 (normal OC) with the exact same settings as guru did their review on and instead of 52fps i have 67! I wonder what kind of Maxwell gpus is guru using??? Are they reference cards or underclocked or what???
Also the 980Ti should be above 80fps with the same settings as well! I call this review at least inaccurate.
nizzen
It depends on cpu speed, cores, memoryfrequency, gpu memoryfrequency and gpu frequency. You need to compare with same settings, software and hardware to compare 🙂
Embra
Feel free to start a youtube bench site if you like. I will stick with HH's reviews.
Dj_ALeX
I'm pretty sure the guru's test system is better than mine so.. and btw you shouldn't mention the obvious things.. i'm a hardware tester/technician for over 12 years! 🙂
You can do whatever you want, believe whoever you want and stick with any reviewer you want. I just don't care!
The common user will see those numbers and misscalculate the performance of any of those cards so don't give me that BS.
End of coversation for me.
Fox2232
I wrote it before, there are more anomalies. Is it game patch level, driver for given OS or OS itself? Or combination? Hard to say, so you are not alone noticing that something went wrong this time and tests have questionable results. (#13)
Dj_ALeX
My dear friend even if someone tries super duper hard he would never produce those numbers in this game with "specific hardware", its impossible. The difference that my numbers have with gurus is huge! You cannot gain that much even after tweaking/updating everything to MAX! I know this game has some inconsistencies but to that degree its simply out of question! And all that with gurus test system being much better than mine for sure! Finally it is always better hearing that you're not alone so.. i'm glad others have seen this too!
Dragam1337
Maxwell scales alot with gpu core clocks - hillbert uses a founders edition 980 with stock clocks, so if you are running a custom 980, which is OC'ed, you could easily get 20% higher performance from your gpu 🙂
Dj_ALeX
Yeah thats true Maxwell is an excellent overclocker and you gain a lot out of it but despite that the difference that i have is pretty huge..!
I was wondering what cards were used and i made an assumption about the use of reference cards! In that case the results cannot be taken as legit! Who uses reference cards anyway..! Furthermore i suppose no optimization has been made anywhere in their whole test system.. oh well.. ! End of story!
EDIT: I just downclocked my card to reference design clocks @1220MHz and i hit 58fps. There is still 6 fps difference there and i have a worse test system than guru's..!
Dragam1337
I think the stock version also downclocks during heavy load, due to the very restrictive stock power target on the reference cards.
Fox2232
@Dj_ALeX : I do not worry much about those numbers. I expect Hilbert to bench the hell out of this TR once it gets RT update.
Dj_ALeX
The upcoming RT update has nothing to do with Maxwell & Pascal performance. What do you think is going to happen exactly?? Furthermore i don't need numbers any more from gurus gaming database knowing that their using reference cards that they cannot even maintain the original boost clock.. I have my own realistic numbers for both Maxwell & Pascal and soon for Turing too.
Fox2232
You will have every GPU retested.
Denial
His argument is that Hilbert is benching with reference Nvidia cards - for Pascal reference Nvidia cards would downclock under sustained load after 5 minutes, with Maxwell the reference clocks were pretty low compared to AIB/User overclocks. With Maxwell, Nvidia completely stopped selling reference designs after several months. Probably paints a bit of a skewed window. Probably a skew that Nvidia deserves for designing such a crappy reference card then marking it up $100 (FE).
I'm not really sure how he expects Hilbert to solve this though. In a perfect world I guess you'd weigh the sales of ref vs AIB for each SKU and create some kind of target clock average or something but I don't know how you'd expect hilbert to do that. I personally prefer reference benching because I know on average how much more performance I can pull from reference on an OC for various cards. I look at like Hilbert's 980Ti numbers and I go "my 980Ti would be 20% faster than that" for example. Seems easy enough.
waltc3
I cannot see a bit of difference from these screen shots and my rx-590/480 8GB system @ 3840x2160--other than the fact that some sort of green post-processing filtering seems to have been applied to these images, imo. I routinely get >100fps peaks in this game--my average is ~62 fps, with the in-game benchmark. I surely hope those who paid $800-$1300 for these cards feel good about what they purchased. No further comment required.
waltc3
I've noticed the game itself is much better under D3d12--and of course the multi-gpu support only adds to that, for my setup.
