Scaler Vendors Pledge Support for AMD's Project FreeSync

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Finally. I gave up buying a new monitor in May, in order to wait for Freesync monitor:)
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Awesome. I hope someone makes a 120 or 144Hz 16:10 screen.
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Sounds cool, but very annoying to develop another "sync" technology, reminds me of when cell phones used different chargers.
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Sounds cool, but very annoying to develop another "sync" technology, reminds me of when cell phones used different chargers.
Apple?... But yeah it's annoying buying a sync monitor but then limited to a specific gfx card.
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Apple?... But yeah it's annoying buying a sync monitor but then limited to a specific gfx card.
I'm not a fan of how Apple works in that regards, but before then when phones almost all had some proprietary charger that ONLY worked with one specific model
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Apple?... But yeah it's annoying buying a sync monitor but then limited to a specific gfx card.
Any new monitor coming out that has a DisplayPort 1.3 will work with this. That is the advantage AMD has. Nvidia doesn't need to even license anything, they just need to support the full DP 1.3 spec. Chances are we will see G-Sync add support for DP 1.3 and the standard will be unified.
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Sounds cool, but very annoying to develop another "sync" technology, reminds me of when cell phones used different chargers.
I understand it being annoying to adopt something new, but the whole point of using a DisplayPort standard is to make it widely available for everyone, and to increase the number of compatible displays available for market at a cheaper cost to the consumer. Nvidia G-Sync, on the other hand, requires a proprietary (see: expensive) chip inside the display to work, whereas FreeSync uses an open standard (DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync). DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync can potentially work with any compatible graphics card, where as G-Sync will only work with Nvidia cards, unless Nvidia does a complete 180. Not to play fanboy here, but kudos to AMD for doing the right thing and pushing the market to adapt this technology for everyone. With the adoption of these major scaler vendors, this really is a win for everyone. Really great news today for all PC gaming enthusiasts.
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Is it me or they have basically said that it is only going to work with their GPUs? "Monitors equipped with such DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync-aware scalers will allow contemporary AMD Radeon graphics cards to synchronize display refresh rates and GPU framerates via Project FreeSync to enable tearing and stutter-free gaming along with low input latency" Also, no freesync for UHD monitors higher than 60hz? Because now may not be a problem but in the future those monitors will start to sell, displayport 1.3 has already been anounced. Also, if freesync only works with AMD GPUs and g-sync only works with Nvidia's, then you should think very carefully what is going to be your next monitor, it will basically decide from which brand you will buy GPUs in the following years.
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I think NVidia very quickly adopts FreeSync. Cards priced at less than $300, account for more than half of the market. These consumers will not spend an extra $150 on the monitor with G-Sync. If, however, most of the monitors will have similar function practically for free, there is a good chance that people will buy AMD cards instead of NVidia only for this function. Also for this reason, mainly, in my opinion, have now been introduced R9 285, having to replace the R9 280/280x, that do not have Freesync. AMD currently has a cards with Freesync in nearly every price segment (R9 295X2, 290x, R9 290, R9 285, R7 260X and R7 260).
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Is it me or they have basically said that it is only going to work with their GPUs? "Monitors equipped with such DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync-aware scalers will allow contemporary AMD Radeon graphics cards to synchronize display refresh rates and GPU framerates via Project FreeSync to enable tearing and stutter-free gaming along with low input latency" Also, no freesync for UHD monitors higher than 60hz? Because now may not be a problem but in the future those monitors will start to sell, displayport 1.3 has already been anounced. Also, if freesync only works with AMD GPUs and g-sync only works with Nvidia's, then you should think very carefully what is going to be your next monitor, it will basically decide from which brand you will buy GPUs in the following years.
Again you misunderstand 2 things: - Adaptative Sync who is the Vesa standard who allow the sync of gpu framerates and refresh rate. ( by displayport 1.2a or higher ) - FreeSync who is the feature build in " driver " who will use the adaptative sync. ( feature made by AMD ) Monitor who want to be sold with DP 1.2a - 1.3 etc will support it ( you cant sold it with displayport without Vesa standard ) Anyone is free to developp their driver ( including Nvidia ) for use Adaptative sync from Displayport standard 1.2a and higher.. For Nvidia, this mean the remove of the need of a scaler module supporting it... so basically we can imagine on driver side, they have one mostly done for it. Ofc it will be hard for Nvidia then to licence their technology and sold it to monitor brand like Asus Benq etc.. As for UHD 60hz.. this is just scaler dont support more today on "4K" monitors. Lol they was allready need multistream support for get 60hz before, native 60hz is allready a nice advance.
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Again you misunderstand 2 things: - Adaptative Sync who is the Vesa standard who allow the sync of gpu framerates and refresh rate. - FreeSync who is the feature build in " driver " who will use the adaptative sync. ( feature made by AMD ) Anyone is free to developp their driver ( including Nvidia ) for use Adaptative sync from Displayport standard 1.2a and higher.. For Nvidia, this mean the remove of the need of a scaler module supporting it... so basically we can imagine on driver side, they have one mostly done for it.
Really? again?, It is the first time you respond to my post so, again seems to be the wrong word. I understanded those two things you point out, it doesn´t change the fact that according with the statement they only mention AMD gpus to work with it. In other words, if for adaptative sync to work you need some drivers, and those drivers are inside the monitor, then my claim stands. You need to think very carefully which monitor to buy because that is going to determine the brand of your GPUs in the future. At this point does not mather if NVIDIA decides to go to vesa standard adaptative sync technology because monitors will "force" you to buy a particular brand in the future, unless they come with both drivers or as things stand right now with the vesa standard, AMD´s drivers for it and the G-sync module. If I have understanded things wrong, please, explain to me. This second time the word again will be correct.
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Really? again?, It is the first time you respond to my post so, again seems to be the wrong word. I understanded those two things you point out, it doesn´t change the fact that according with the statement they only mention AMD gpus to work with it, wheter this is part of an AMD plan or it is just because NVIDIA have it own propietary technology that wants to promote doesn´t change the fact that it seems that AMD does not espect NVIDIA to jump on it. In other words, if for adaptative sync to work you need some drivers, and those drivers are inside the monitor, then my claim stands. You need to think very carefully which monitor to buy because that is going to determine the brand of your GPUs in the future. At this point does not mather if NVIDIA decides to go to vesa standard adaptative sync technology because monitors will "force" you to buy a particular brand in the future. If I have understanded things wrong, please, explain to me. This second time the word again will be correct.
Not directed on you, sorry if you have got this feeling, but it seems we need to come back each time to explain what is the connection standard on monitor side and what is freesync. No the driver is the GPU driver . Each monitor who own DisplayPort connection 1.2a and higher will got it... whatever is the brand of the gpu. If Asus want use Displayport connection on their G-sync enabled monitor, they will too have this standard Vesa of DisplayPort connection enabled automatically ( or they will need limit their monitor to DisplayPort 1.1 ( 1.2 no more exist it is replaced by 1.2a ) Basically each monitor who own a Displayport connection of 1.2a and higher ( or TV for the purpose ) will get the adaptative sync support. Then GPU Brand ( AMD, Nvidia, Intel for PC ) if they want offer the use of this feature, just need include this features in their gpu driver. For AMD, well obviously the driver is allready done, as they are at the base of include this on the DisplayPort standard and in their driver side, the feature is called FreeSync.. For Intel we can assume they will do a driver really quickly for support it too. as for Nvidia, the problem is they have G-sync, that they licence to monitor brand and sold them a costly module ( who replace the initial scaler of the monitor basically ). So they will maybe dont include it directly and developp the driver for it ( we could be surprised. ).. But obviously, their driver is nearly done, as on the gpu side, it should not be really much different of G-sync.
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Not directed on you, but it seems we need to come back each time to explain it .. No the driver is the GPU driver . Each monitor who own DisplayPort connection 1.2a and higher will got it... whatever is the brand of the gpu. If Asus want use Displayport connection on their G-sync enabled monitor, they will too have this standard Vesa of DisplayPort connection enabled automatically ( or they will need limit their monitor to DisplayPort 1.1 ( 1.2 no more exist it is replaced by 1.2a ) Basically each monitor who own a Displayport connection of 1.2a and higher ( or TV for the purpose ) will get the standard adapative sync support. Then GPU Brand ( AMD, Nvidia, Intel for PC ) if they want offer the use of this feature, just need include this features in their driver.
So if Nvidia wants, they can make some drivers an use it on any monitor with displayport 1.2 or higher? I don´t understand this bit then: "Under the technology partnerships, MStar, Novatek and Realtek each will develop a range of DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync-ready scalers to complement the new monitor product cycle in 1Q15. Monitors equipped with such DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync-aware scalers will allow contemporary AMD Radeon graphics cards to synchronize display refresh rates and GPU framerates via Project FreeSync to enable tearing and stutter-free gaming along with low input latency." Anyway, thanks for informing me.
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Yes, because it is AMD PR, and they advertize that monitor who got the new scaler supporting DisplayPort 1.2a and higher will allow to work with the "AMD Freesync" feature. ( as their driver can communicate now with the monitor for control the adapative sync ). Its to each brand now ( intel and Nvidia ) to include the support in their gpu driver for use adaptative sync if they want to make use of it. For Intel, it is 100% sure their driver who offer this feature will be released when monitor who support it will be in the market..
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Yes, because it is AMD PR, and they advertize that monitor who got the new scaler supporting DisplayPort 1.2a and higher will allow to work with the "AMD Freesync" feature. ( as their driver can communicate now with the monitor for control the adapative sync ).
Ok, so it is just a PR thing (always mention your brand), those vendors are making scaler for adaptative sync, of course it will work with AMD´s gpus, but also others. Basically nobody but AMD in the vesa group are pushing forward adaptative-sync technology, that makes sense, and that´s why they make this PR statement and not someone from vesa, because AMD has had to make this deal happen. did I got it right?
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Ok, so it is just a PR thing (always mention your brand), those vendors are making scaler for adaptative sync, of course it will work with AMD´s gpus, but also others. Basically nobody but AMD in the vesa group are pushing forward adaptative-sync technology, that makes sense, and that´s why they make this PR statement and not someone from vesa, because AMD has had to make this deal happen. did I got it right?
100% correct.
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FreeSync-compatible scalers from MStar 😀 So it means IPS Monitor from Korea with 1440p and Freesync is comming?
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Given that these major scaler vendors have signed on to support FreeSync, I could see Nvidia switching their stance and offering FreeSync support on their graphics cards. Though this hurts their push to implement G-Sync, as this will now become a display standard (support determined by GPU vendor & drivers) whereas G-Sync requires a very costly proprietary scaler chip. I'll say it again, this is great news for PC gaming enthusiasts everywhere.
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Given that these major scaler vendors have signed on to support FreeSync, I could see Nvidia switching their stance and offering FreeSync support on their graphics cards. Though this hurts their push to implement G-Sync, as this will now become a display standard (support determined by GPU vendor & drivers) whereas G-Sync requires a very costly proprietary scaler chip. I'll say it again, this is great news for PC gaming enthusiasts everywhere.
They will not call it freesync... they will simply call it support for DP adaptive sync.
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So... sometime next year there are supposed to be the first monitors around that support freesync... but adaptive sync they don't, because the companies would have to integrate it into their drivers, correct? I'm not sure if I get those things right. There's gsync, only working with gsync module and nvidia cards. Then there will be freesync, most likely only working with freesync modules and (because of driver integration) amd cards. To me it sounds like adaptive sync will never find a way into desktop graphics drivers, because either company would undermine their own premium offer (the modules in that regard). If, and only if, I am right with what I said, there wouldn't be any reason to not by a gsync monitor if I have and nvidia card, right? I mean, besides the usual (bugs, price...)