Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 reference cards spotted on Amazon
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alanm
When available, they will all be gone in 24 hours and end up on ebay @ $1500.
Silva
And after a couple weeks they'll be returned like the Nvidia 4000 series scalpers could not sell.
Oh wait: retailers now don't accept returns because of that. good luck scalpers!
tunejunky
personally, i hope HH already or is just about to get an embargoed one for testing (for release on 13th).
that way before i hit the Amazon or New Egg alarm i can at least read about it without buying a pig in a poke.
bobnewels
I will be hitting some of the computer stores in my area for 7900XTX.I am just not fast enough on Amazon and they sell the new GPU's sometimes and they do not have enough stock to send out.Sometimes though I do find deal on Amazon with same day delivery,which is awesome.
Ivrogne
Good. Let them cry in agony.
Venix
Every time I hear a scalper lost money puts a huge smile on my face !
alanm
Those are 4080s that are hard to sell with their silly prices. Big diff vs the 7900s which are going to fly off the shelves with their much more appealing prices. Scalpers will jump on these.
Kaarme
Even if you considered the shop price to be agreeable, would the scalper price anymore be such? To make profit, a scalper would try to sell it for about as much as a 4080 goes for in a shop, which should be too much, since the price is precisely 4080's main problem. But then again, if someone is buying stuff from a scalper, I guess they don't care about the price, only the availability. There are plenty of 4080s in shops, which ought to be the primary reason why scalpers can't sell their wares. In other words, with the RX 7900 cards, it would also depend on how much AMD and AIB partners can manufacture.
alanm
Very good point. Not much to be gained scalping 7900s when 4080s will be on the shelves at MSRP. But things could change if the 4080 drops to $999 and they start to once again be on the scalping table.
mikeysg
'If' is the operative word here, nVidia might, just might, drop the price of the RTX 4080 to 999YSD, but that's highly unlikely. That means they'd have to sell the RTX 4070 Ti for 800-850USD perhaps, but the rumor is, they want 1000USD for the RTX 4070 Ti.
alanm
Before the 4080 12gb was unlaunched, Nvidia had revealed its price as $899. No ones going to buy a 4070 ti for more than that. Or even $899 for that matter as it will be going against the 7900 cards.
mikeysg
Then you've seriously underestimated fanboyism, and nVidia mindshare. I believe even IF nVidia were to price it at 899USD (as they'd intended what the RTX 4070 Ti was called the RTX 4080 12GB FE as in Fake Edition), it would still be lapped up by fanboys/nVidiots, it's as simple as that.
tunejunky
normally i might argue the point...but the last three years has proven you correct
Undying
Basically we have to be optimistic that originally planned rtx4070 wont be more than 599$.
alanm
Well, Nvidia 'fanboyism' has hit a wall with the pricing of the 4080 16gb. In no small part due to the incoming 7900 cards. Same will occur with under-spec'd 12gb model that is just as bad in value if not worse as the other. I'm a certified Nvidia fanboy and $899 is well within my budget, but that I draw a line in spending it on a 192-bit mid-range card. There are limits to even Nvidia die-hards.
mikeysg
Then I put it to you, sir, that while you're an nVidia fanboy, you do not qualify as an nVidiot.:p:D
Just kidding, it's refreshing to meet with a reasonable nVidia fan!:) I'm waiting for for the release of the RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX myself, will see how they compare against the RTX 4070 Ti (when it's released) and the RTX 4080 respectively, I've got time, I can only get back home early February, so I've got time to read reviews and benchmarks before committing.
mikeysg
Even now, I'm almost willing to lay down good money that the RTX 3050 is outselling its AMD rival, the RX 6600, though the latter runs circles around it, and can be had for less. nVidia mindshare hard at work here.....
JamesSneed
I'm OK with it. I will buy the cheaper AMD card if tests look good and those fanboys will have indirectly saved me a few bucks.
H83
Even Nvidia`s fanboys have turned their backs on the 4080 because of the silly prices, just because people (really) like a certain brand doesn`t mean they are going to bend over all the way, like certain companies desire...
The same is going to happen to the future 4070ti or whatever is called.
And i think AMD is also going to have a really hard time selling the 7900`s at those prices.
bballfreak6
To be fair though, the mindshare/fanboyism wasn't totally without merit. You could argue the last few gens (crazy mining/scalping notwithstanding) NV overall had the better product for the money with a more fleshed out feature set. I've used NV all my life (more so to do with familiarity) and me picking up the 2070S for roughly ~USD440 was probably one of my best purchases ever for the fact that it still holds up well in 1440P today.
Having said all that what NV is doing now is pretty disgusting, creating artificial shortages by limiting supply of the 3000 series to keep last gen prices high and jacking the price of this new gen to an unprecedented level (along with all that dodgy marketing with the latest being 3060 8GB); like many others I am seriously considering picking up an AMD card for the first time and assuming price/performance comes out within reason (mainly concerned about RT performance) and no bugs with the new chiplet GPU design I'll be putting a 7900XTX into my new build.
