Samsung Galaxy S4 Announced Ships in April
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kanej2007
Looks identical to the Note II, awesome spec nevertheless!
Speed Weed
Managed to survive an hour of that streaming rubbish from Times Square very late last night/early this morning. 🙁
Really painful to watch.
Lane
nicugoalkeper
I don't know way you did it, is better to wait for some real reviews , hoping Hilbert will do one to !
hallryu
The new Sony phone looks much better.
Chillin
Galaxy 3S
Seriously, there is nothing here for the most part that can't be backported to the Galaxy S3 or that apps can't do for any modern android phone. The field is wide open for Motorola and Google with their "X-phone" and Apple to finally make a new modern interface and continue to take the lead. Absolutely no one I talked to was anymore excited for the S4 than they were for the S3.
That being said, props to Samsung for the replaceable battery and Micro-SD.
In addition, that was the corniest presentation I have perhaps ever watched, it was almost painful. No one wonder why Anand just cut his liveblog short; I would have also just done a hands on and left when I saw that show.
Chillin
One of the things I also can't understand is why the rear camera can't record at 60 FPS, the hardware is certainly powerful enough...
eclap
Denial
The conference was terrible, they basically said nothing about the hardware. US variant is getting the S600, which at this point I think is better than the octacore, especially considering the A15's are clocked at 1.2ghz.
The LTE version isn't shipping till later this year too, so who knows when that is. At the point I think I'll end up getting something else.
Vinnie
And.. It is still made of plastic. 😀
Denial
Vxheous
Just because it looks like a S3, doesn't mean it would run like one. Expected better from all the posts here considering this a tech site. Exynos 5 Octa vs a Snapdragon S4, 1080p 441ppi vs 720p 306 ppi, the specs are pretty impressive.
Denial
deltatux
Chillin
Here is the first official benchmark of the Exynos 5 version:
http://youtu.be/zPaIA16VqQI
Numbers are decent, but it looks like the Snapdragon 600 will blow past this easily. I wonder how the Adreno 320 stacks up to the 544MP3.
Chillin
https://twitter.com/anandshimpi/status/312361491095498752
Either way, it looks like the Snapdragon 600 phones are faster anyways based on the benchmarks. The GPU parts might be a different story though.
And I'm not sure how practical it is cost wise and silicon wise to have such a complicated setup as big.little rather than four efficient cores that can clock independently of each other (Snapdragon, etc). It must take up no small amount of space on the die.
It is not yet certain what runs at what. Anand said that he heard that the A15 is at 1.2:
Denial
deltatux
http://anandtech.com/show/6768/samsung-details-exynos-5-octa-architecture-power-at-isscc-13
As for when the A15 gets fired up, not everyone uses their phones to game (I don't use my phone for gaming for instance), so for most people, they'll mainly be using the Cortex A7 and then only fire up the A15s whenever they do game or do other types of processing that will trigger the A15s (like computationally heavy applications like postprocessing effects or image processing). We'll have to see actual benchmark to see how well Samsung's implementation of ARM's big.LITTLE design to see how it compares to NVIDIA's Tegra design and Qualcomm's traditional SoC design.
deltatux
The Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 doesn't come with integrated LTE, it's an APQ, not an MSM SKU. It'll be like the Nexus 4 where it'll require an external baseband radio to work.
As for the licensing, ARM do have dual core A7 designs, Samsung just chose to use quad core A7 designs instead, Samsung, being the manufacturer can choose how they implement their ARM cores even though they don't have the ARM ISA license.
I read differently and that the A15s will run at 1.6 GHz and A7s will run at 1.2 GHz. Even Anandtech say so as well, not sure where you got your clockspeeds from...: Chillin
Speed wise, the A15 used in the Exynos 5 seems to be a tad slower than the Krait 300 in the Snapdragon 600. But the GPU in the Exynos 5 (544MP3, 51.2 GFLOPS looks to be much faster than the one in the Snapdragon 600 (Adreno 320, ~30-35 GFLOPS).
Denial
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6832/samsungs-galaxy-s-4-introduction-hands-on
Also coming from an opensource fanboy I would have thought you would support the S600 considering samsungs track record for Exynos support 😛
I'd still rather have the snapdragon I think.
Yeah you're right about the 600 and LTE, it's the 800 that supports LTE onboard, I thought it was both.
As for the A7 you might be right, not sure -- I remember an anandtech podcast mentioning why they wouldn't/couldn't go for less -- I tried looking it up and couldn't find it. Either way I think Quad A7's are fine due to how often they are used.
As for clock speeds: