Ryzen Series 7000 (Zen 4) CPUs Enter Pre-Production

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Awesome. Can't wait for your reviews when they eventually release.
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finally on lga. Im sure cpus will be awesome,but I'm worried about prices I'm waiting for a board with 4xnvme, 1xpcie5 and ddr4 under 200eur
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5ghz zen4 cpu with ddr5. The real upgrade im waiting for.
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cucaulay malkin:

finally on lga. Im sure cpus will be awesome,but I'm worried about prices I'm waiting for a board with 4xnvme, 1xpcie5 and ddr4 under 200eur
Yeah the price certainly could end up a bit of a worry. I know in my neck of the woods, the 5950 and 5900 price has been plummeting. It really is tempting to just grab one and call it a day.
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Maddness:

Yeah the price certainly could end up a bit of a worry. I know in my neck of the woods, the 5950 and 5900 price has been plummeting. It really is tempting to just grab one and call it a day.
Hold on. Im in even better possition as i already have x570 board but i still decided to wait. Have a feeling there will be very big improvements with zen4.
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I'm waiting for the future 7800X. Could be perfect for my new gaming system.
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Maddness:

Yeah the price certainly could end up a bit of a worry. I know in my neck of the woods, the 5950 and 5900 price has been plummeting. It really is tempting to just grab one and call it a day.
5900x certainly it's cheaper than 5800x was not so long ago
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I'll first update my 3800x to a 5000 series processor and wait a few years for the AM5 gremlins to sort themselves out. Maybe wait for what Intel and AMD have cooked up in a few years before I put myself through another total system upgrade. Seeing as I'd be looking at least at a motherboard & memory upgrade with possibly a PSU upgrade as well (seeing as the specs for the next GPU generations seem to be trending upwards in power demands), so taking the plunge on the first release MB's seems to be a bit premature.
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Undying:

Hold on. Im in even better possition as i already have x570 board but i still decided to wait. Have a feeling there will be very big improvements with zen4.
went x570 zo z690 and everyday I'm like "amd save me from intel" >< it's my bad as I had z390 previously but honestly could not believe they would do the same mistakes, low rear usb count horrible pcie, internal ports management....you don't want 4 nvme on board I got technically 5 but it completely destroyed everything else sata,usb,pcie it's not worth it especially since on amd I could easily plug an nvme pcie addin board to add 2 or even 4+ on threadripper m.2s having owned a 3960 and 5950x the improvements between the 2 was huge, so much that it practically killed non-pro threadripper cinebenchR23 didn't exist before I sold the 3960x but I have R20 benchmarks 9900k 5100-507 3960x 14162 - 495 5950x 11365 - 632 (with 8 less cores should be 9441 so a 20% improvement) 12900k 10653 - 794 if the new 7000 improve another 20% I'll change again in an heartbeat I'm scared about how they will be able to handle DDR5 (which can't properly run more than 2 sticks) and pcie5 bandwith (on intel you lose 16x 4.0 lanes because of how badly the split between pcie slots works)
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@kakiharaFRS why did you change from the 5950 to 12900? The benefits of doing that seem small or close to non existent .
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cucaulay malkin:

finally on lga. Im sure cpus will be awesome,but I'm worried about prices I'm waiting for a board with 4xnvme, 1xpcie5 and ddr4 under 200eur
chances are you would be fine without the x770 chipset - the "B" series isn't just productivity anymore since B550 because of the VRM requirements actually allow a decent OC idk about 4x m.2 (possible but you may lose lanes in a B series), but you could always get a m.2/pcie slot adaptor. anyways i suspect the "B" series will be about $200 but there are always price point issues such as wifi or not wifi, etc...
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tunejunky:

chances are you would be fine without the x770 chipset - the "B" series isn't just productivity anymore since B550 because of the VRM requirements actually allow a decent OC idk about 4x m.2 (possible but you may lose lanes in a B series), but you could always get a m.2/pcie slot adaptor. anyways i suspect the "B" series will be about $200 but there are always price point issues such as wifi or not wifi, etc...
will be looking for an amd equivalent https://geizhals.de/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-a2625664.html
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When you're already getting really high fps with a 5800X then i see not much point in switching over to the first gen PCI-e 5, AM5 AMD system. I don't know what'll come after the 7000 series but that will most likely be 2025 and time for me to upgrade. I could get a 5900X or even a 5950X for this system but with silicon lottery i might end up with a worse chip than my really good 5Ghz 5800X. The warranty on this system runs to early 2024 so for me i can't really mess about with it too much but that's what happens when you're forced to buy a whole built PC in the height of the pandemic. šŸ™
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Reddoguk:

When you're already getting really high fps with a 5800X then i see not much point in switching over to the first gen PCI-e 5, AM5 AMD system. I don't know what'll come after the 7000 series but that will most likely be 2025 and time for me to upgrade. I could get a 5900X or even a 5950X for this system but with silicon lottery i might end up with a worse chip than my really good 5Ghz 5800X. The warranty on this system runs to early 2024 so for me i can't really mess about with it too much but that's what happens when you're forced to buy a whole built PC in the height of the pandemic. šŸ™
As someone with a 5800x as well I plan to get whatever Intel makes on 18a or AMD makes on TSMC's 2nm. Those products are going to have massive performance gains as they move off FinFET to GAA on those nodes. I am looking to get a new GPU this fall so hopefully I will be set until 2025 when that transition occurs.
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I will upgrade for no other reason than its my hobby and I want too, hell I work for the damn money am damned if my kids are gonna get it all when I croak!
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Iā€™m very happy with my 5900X. In fact, quite a bit more than I expected to be. It was a pleasant surprise after a decade with Intel. My plan was to upgrade to either Zen4 or to the Intel equivalent, but I might just end up waiting a year or two, depending on mobo and DDR5 pricing.
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mackintosh:

Iā€™m very happy with my 5900X. In fact, quite a bit more than I expected to be. It was a pleasant surprise after a decade with Intel. My plan was to upgrade to either Zen4 or to the Intel equivalent, but I might just end up waiting a year or two, depending on mobo and DDR5 pricing.
Not had Intel since my first a core2duo died after 8 Months and they refused to exchange it saying it was my fault it died, was with AMD before that and been with them since I will never knowingly give Intel a penny again
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AMD's AM5 Will Launch With Only DDR5 Support for Ryzen 7000, Dual-Chipset Design All signs indicate that AMD's next-gen AM5 socket platforms that will house the 5nm Ryzen 7000 'Raphael' processors will only support DDR5 memory when they arrive later this year, but it isn't official. However, we have now confirmed through multiple sources in the supply chain that the X670 and B650 AM5 platforms support only DDR5 memory, which has pricing implications for platforms built around AMD's upcoming Zen 4 processors. Additionally, we've also confirmed that AMD has moved to a chiplet-based design for the chipsets for its AM5 motherboards, so some models will come with two chipset dies...
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alanm:

AMD's AM5 Will Launch With Only DDR5 Support for Ryzen 7000, Dual-Chipset Design All signs indicate that AMD's next-gen AM5 socket platforms that will house the 5nm Ryzen 7000 'Raphael' processors will only support DDR5 memory when they arrive later this year, but it isn't official. However, we have now confirmed through multiple sources in the supply chain that the X670 and B650 AM5 platforms support only DDR5 memory, which has pricing implications for platforms built around AMD's upcoming Zen 4 processors. Additionally, we've also confirmed that AMD has moved to a chiplet-based design for the chipsets for its AM5 motherboards, so some models will come with two chipset dies...
that should also give extra pcie lanes so one series might be focused on onboard storage also crossfire which is like offering candy for the entry level workstation market...perhaps this is AMD replacing entry level Threadripper to restore the high end enthusiast market sub $1k cpu
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I have an R5 5600X which will not bottleneck even RTX 3090 Ti if you play any graphically demanding game at 1440p, so I certainly will pass the first generation of DDR5 requiring CPUs. Also, I don't think that price of DDR5 will drop enough to make upgrading appealing for the majority, if they have something decent like six core CPU from Ryzen 3000 series or Intel's 10000 series. I know that price of DDR5 has fallen steadily for the past few months, but it is hard to imagine you would get any decently fast 16 Gb kit for under 100 ā‚¬ when the new CPUs launch, but in reality for something like 120 ā‚¬ or more, if you want "sweetspot RAM". This is just my prediction though, of course the summer will show us if factories can ramp up capacity. Some might think here that if you have something like R5 3600, then you should upgrade your CPU, but even if you would invest in a GPU of RTX 3080's performance, that will still be a far better upgrade than just keeping your whatever lesser current GPU combined with a new CPU. Nothing new in the aforementioned notion, but what I'm trying to tell here, is that many people already upgraded their CPU while waiting for GPUs to be available, so they will next invest in a GPU, making the new CPU generation not very popular even if performance would be outstanding. In any case, I'm very interested to learn about them. PS. I'm personally hyped for the Intel GPUs, though the fastest models don't seem that fast for how much they consume power, but if price is right, I'm perhaps ready to buy the A770 model (assumably faster than RTX 3060 Ti). Read the latest rumor here.