Hope prices will drop once the market has been flooded with Ryzen goodness!

Hmm not bad.

For now the price is the same than the X if you buy per unit... Interesting on big volume.

I was just about to order my wishlist, but then i was like: "But i can wait a little longer". AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming HyperX Fury Black HX436C17FB3K4/32 (Low Profile for the D15) Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black Perhaps the 5800 will make the 5800X drop in price a little. Heck, i may even get a 5900 non-X if the performance is there.

All I want for this xmas is that stock builds up, prices won't go down if the goods are "out of stock".

Silva:

All I want for this xmas is that stock builds up, prices won't go down if the goods are "out of stock".

Yeah, I find it pretty bleak considering even the 5600X seems to be out of stock. New SKUs could maybe help with product availability, in the event AMD has been binning chips that weren't good enough for what's available now.

TheDeeGee:

I was just about to order my wishlist, but then i was like: "But i can wait a little longer". AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming HyperX Fury Black HX436C17FB3K4/32 (Low Profile for the D15) Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black Perhaps the 5800 will make the 5800X drop in price a little. Heck, i may even get a 5900 non-X if the performance is there.

Given the choice go for the X model every time it takes more cooling but it just works so much better and I honestly believe the non X versions are X's that didnt make the grade, for games the X would be better as it will have a higher core speed but for multicore yes the non X 5900 may be better but honestly not by much

suty455:

Given the choice go for the X model every time it takes more cooling but it just works so much better and I honestly believe the non X versions are X's that didnt make the grade, for games the X would be better as it will have a higher core speed but for multicore yes the non X 5900 may be better but honestly not by much

You're probably right. Still worth the wait to see what prices do for the X models 🙂 If i didn't want to keep my CPU for 5 years i'd go for a 5600X, but i plan to keep it for 5+, just like my current 4770K. And at the same time i don't need 12 cores, so that only leaves the 5800X, as i don't want Intel anymore.

Where is the 5600 non x? Ffs amd stop being intel and release a cheaper zen3 cpus.

Availability is good now so no surprise they start pushing to OEMs

kapu:

Availability is good now so no surprise they start pushing to OEMs

Yeah, okay.. in the meantime I can't get a 5900x to save my life - at this point it was easier for me to get the 3080.

Denial:

Yeah, okay.. in the meantime I can't get a 5900x to save my life - at this point it was easier for me to get the 3080.

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-cpu-twelve-core-3.7ghz-processor-socket-am4-retail.html?wgu=13527_1347475_16086607760852_4fb4b67279&wgexpiry=1616436776&source=webgains&siteid=1347475 https://stockx.com/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-processor?country=GB¤cyCode=GBP Not proper prices though am holding out for the 5950 myself

Undying:

Where is the 5600 non x? Ffs amd stop being intel and release a cheaper zen3 cpus.

They will hit the consumer market when the stocks of 3000-series processors aimed at the same market are mostly exhausted. It would be bad for business all around if the retailers had to knock down prices of the 3000 series chips when they just sat, due to cheap 5000-series options available being superior for marginally more cost. So once the 3000-series stocks are more exhausted than now you will see more options on the market catering to the then-open budget tiers. Right now your cheap 5000-series processors are the 3000-series processors. There really isn't much more to it than that. To be honest, the 3700x and 3950x I have here are both awesome and there's nothing they cannot run decently that I know of. If you would hit a CPU bottle-neck, then raise the graphics options up until the load is balanced out better for your system. It's been often said: There's no such thing (within reason, sometimes there's a stinker) as a bad system, but there is a such thing as poorly configured software! I'm sure you've heard that enough to make your head spin, but just figured I'd put it out there. It's possible that most of the good 6c 12t binned 8c 16t dies are going into the 5900x and higher-core-count EPYC / Threadripper 5xxx chips right now, too, to build up stock on those. I am with you on wanting cheap 5xxx processors though, it'd be nice for everything except the main gaming / development system needs many of us have (unless you have a small budget, that's OK too). Most people that intend to game with popular mainstream titles don't have a need for more than 6 cores / 12 threads, but not everyone can afford to dump 300$ plus tax into just the CPU. For that, there's the R5 3600 and the R5 2600 if you can find it, which sadly are your only options right now. They're not terrible though, even if they're not top dog material anymore.

bobblunderton:

They will hit the consumer market when the stocks of 3000-series processors aimed at the same market are mostly exhausted. It would be bad for business all around if the retailers had to knock down prices of the 3000 series chips when they just sat, due to cheap 5000-series options available being superior for marginally more cost. So once the 3000-series stocks are more exhausted than now you will see more options on the market catering to the then-open budget tiers. Right now your cheap 5000-series processors are the 3000-series processors. There really isn't much more to it than that. To be honest, the 3700x and 3950x I have here are both awesome and there's nothing they cannot run decently that I know of. If you would hit a CPU bottle-neck, then raise the graphics options up until the load is balanced out better for your system. It's been often said: There's no such thing (within reason, sometimes there's a stinker) as a bad system, but there is a such thing as poorly configured software! I'm sure you've heard that enough to make your head spin, but just figured I'd put it out there. It's possible that most of the good 6c 12t binned 8c 16t dies are going into the 5900x and higher-core-count EPYC / Threadripper 5xxx chips right now, too, to build up stock on those. I am with you on wanting cheap 5xxx processors though, it'd be nice for everything except the main gaming / development system needs many of us have (unless you have a small budget, that's OK too). Most people that intend to game with popular mainstream titles don't have a need for more than 6 cores / 12 threads, but not everyone can afford to dump 300$ plus tax into just the CPU. For that, there's the R5 3600 and the R5 2600 if you can find it, which sadly are your only options right now. They're not terrible though, even if they're not top dog material anymore.

Very true I have a small itx running a ryzen 1300 and a 1060 6gb and its fine for everyday use at the moment its used as a open media vault media server and it manages quite happily and can play some pretty decent games but obviously at lower quali

Denial:

Yeah, okay.. in the meantime I can't get a 5900x to save my life - at this point it was easier for me to get the 3080.

Lots in Poland , many shops have , even locally . You go and buy . Price ? overpriced 🙂

Undying:

Where is the 5600 non x? Ffs amd stop being intel and release a cheaper zen3 cpus.

I'm 99% sure they didn't make enough 5000 series to be able to sort any volume of lesser chips. As rumours say, we might have a 5600 in the beginning of next year.

5600X here is 100+ USD, no 5800X and between 150-200 USD for 5900/5950X if it can be found. GPU still way too expensive from 3060Ti and 6800 and up if it can be found. Really need 2020 to pass quickly...

Well , i really want a non x 5600 , i really want to have the option in 4-5 years to have the option to get a used 5950 or 5900 , but at the current local prices ...no thanks , what seems insane is that even the cheapest 3600 non x cost 270e while the core i5 10400f costs 150e atm if future update was not in my mind i would have been picking the 10400f with out any second thought at all.

Venix:

Well , i really want a non x 5600 , i really want to have the option in 4-5 years to have the option to get a used 5950 or 5900 , but at the current local prices ...no thanks , what seems insane is that even the cheapest 3600 non x cost 270e while the core i5 10400f costs 150e atm if future update was not in my mind i would have been picking the 10400f with out any second thought at all.

It is same everywhere i guess, AMD overpriced , i got 5600X for 370 EUR , it's amazing CPU yes , but compare that to 150 EUR 10400k in terms performance/$..... and 10600k for 260 eur ...

kapu:

It is same everywhere i guess, AMD overpriced , i got 5600X for 370 EUR , it's amazing CPU yes , but compare that to 150 EUR 10400k in terms performance/$..... and 10600k for 260 eur ...

Sure, AMD costs quite a bit, but it's a really good CPU, and currently takes a lot of top honors. So now that intel is not the best, it cannot command top dollar, and people are not buying it as much as they used-to do for enthusiast builds. The 10400F has no iGPU and has no multiplier adjustment upwards for overclocking, this differs than the 10400K. It's supply and demand. If you want a cheap AMD CPU, there are options out there just not in the 5xxx range, especially more-so if you're just going to snag a larger CPU later. If you can find a used or new OEM* 4xxxG series chip, you will have some of the benefits of the monolithic** L3 cache but not all the cache that the newer 5xxx has. That said, most people do NOT need more than an 8-core 16-thread chip, so buying an intel option right now isn't necessarily a bad deal at any rate. *Currently, the 4350G~4750G are CURRENTLY only released as OEM chips to large system builders, and I don't see this changing anytime in the near future. Eventually, some will always make their way onto Ali Express, Ebay, and similar sites for something less than a bargain (e.g. probably more than it cost new!), but may still be good for your use-case. So if you don't mind 'no warranty', it's a good middle ground IF you can find one and deal with the two-week wait time. **Monolithic cache that's no-where near as big as the 5xxx or 3xxx chips. I believe that this information is correct though as they are a later design of the 3xxx series, with the monolithic L3 cache design. Now, there haven't been many official reviews as they aren't available for retail officially HOWEVER that above info is all the info I have on them. You won't get the IPC increase, higher OC's, or larger cache that the 5xxx chips have. So maybe just find a used 3xxx chip cheap for now and be happy? @suty455 That CPU and the 6GB (important) 1060 has a lot of life left in it. Plus, updates are now trickling down to the 3xx chip-set boards to support 5xxx series processors. So keep fingers crossed that your board will be supported (if not, there's still the fact that almost any game will run nicely at 1080p on that). 3xx boards weren't supposed to be officially supporting the 5xxx CPUs, so we'll see how far THAT goes, but when one manufacturer does it, the rest shall be compelled to follow-suit. I know if 'all I had' was that exact PC with a Ryzen 1500 and a 1060 6gb, I'd still be quite happy and would never be short of things to do for a LONG time. In-fact I'd be very very proud of it, as it's still WAY better than a non-upgradable (to better than a quad core) LGA1150 Haswell system. That's the blessing of AMD motherboards and CPUs. They don't get outmoded quite so fast as say intel with it's socket change every other generation. You can mix and match the boards and chips and make what you need, like relegating your old CPU to a media center by buying a dirt-cheap AM4 A320 or A300 board to go with your old CPU if you bought a CPU upgrade for your desktop, enabling you to do more with less cash spent. It's also easier to source a replacement motherboard if you murder one (or it goes to PC part heaven on it's own), since the same CPU socket is supported over many generations of both boards and chips (provided you have the right BIOS version). I know I will have a 3700x machine put together as soon as I get some extra DDR4 ram here just due to this using the same chip I used before I got the 3950x. --Enjoy!