Ryzen 4000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU Compatibility Only With X570 & B550, not 400 or lower
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Amaze
Well I don't think they ever said specifically that older chipsets would support new chips. There was some worry back when Zen 2 came out that we wouldn't get old board support as I recall it.
AsiJu
AMD promised socket and chipset compatibility up to Zen2, which is already 2 generations more than anything Intel, so your little stunt here backfired.
Besides haven't you been warned by mods to stop spamming anti AMD crap?
You're pro-Intel, fine. No one cares.
Webhiker
He just can't understand how AMD supported 1xx, 2xx and 3xx Ryzen on the same socket and through 3 chipsets.
jwb1
And now all a sudden can't, even though the PINS are the same. At least Intel makes you "upgrade" your mobo because there IS PIN differences. You know very well people who bought would have assumed Zen 3 would work in their AM4 mobo, etc based on HISTORY.
The hypocrisy from AMD fanboy's is hilarious.
Their long support for AM4 in the Ryzen series was one the main things you guys all had "gotcha Intel" statements about.
And AMD also very well probably knew this early on but never said anything until now, after a bunch of X470, X370, and other mobos were sold.
Tell that to the AMD guys around here who also love to jump into every Intel thread. I'm literally reporting facts and news from their website. You just don't like it.
X470 is now considered "old"? But AM4 was suppose to be this holy grail of support. Pretty sure it was understood Zen 3 would work on more than just X570 & B550.
So what you are saying is at worst and its acceptable that the original marketing was deceptive.
liviut
From what i just read on amd site it basically let's it be at the motherboard makers decision as they clearly say it needs a bit more bios memory so basically a bios for x370 thats drops supports for 1st and 2nd gen ryzen and keeps only 3k and 4k compatibility it's possibile but it's gonna be at motherboards maker discretion if it wants or not, that's what i understood there so basically what you wrote is wrong.
jwb1
That's an assumption. And I certainly wouldn't be happy as an X470 owner if I chose the wrong mobo that didn't get supported. So you are better off leaving them all unsupported.
Webhiker
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What do you have to say about pins now ?
Clouseau
This is the last cpu for the AM4 socket. Socket compatibility requires number of pins to be the same or less. So really who cares about this last cpu being so much better. It is a swan song for AM4. Personally going to be skipping this offering and going for a gpu upgrade. This is more of a meh than anything else. Would be more interesting if a 6XX series chipset is offered and then the pattern is perfect...support for the latest and one generation back. It took forever for the X370 boards to get a decent bios for Zen2.
Clouseau
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jwb1
We already know.... power and also PCIE 4.0 support on Rocket Lake on Z490 mobos. Basically all Z490 mobos, at least the high end ones support it for the next CPU.
Webhiker
What hypocrisy are you talking about ?
Do you know for a fact that Ryzen 4xxx won't run on x470 chipsets ? Do you know why?
I can answer both with a No! Since we don't know if or why.
Would I have liked Ryzen 4xxx to run on my X470, yes I would.
But seeing as I'm also planning to update my GPU when Ryzen 4xxx comes out I would most likely
have been forced to buy some X6xx board anyway, since X470 doesn't support PCIe 4.0. Neither does the 550 chipset on the GPU side.
liviut
Well you can see the difference in msi bioses let's say which we are on the day with them and look at some asus that are still stuck on abba bios .... so like i said if they would want to they could support it but only if they want it.
Webhiker
That's not the point he is making. In short he doesn't understand the need for 49 extra pins and a new socket.
jwb1
Um, the fact that people here are thinking this isn't news or a big aboutface. 🙄
jwb1
As much as I respect him, he doesn't know EVERYTHING or does he know what Intel's plans are. You wouldn't add pins for nothing.
Webhiker
So you don't know. Since you don't know everything and you don't know what AMD's plans are.
jwb1
You are right, I don't know the future. I'm sorry. And neither does der8auer. 🙄
Webhiker
You really don't see it? You are defending Intel for the very same thing you criticize AMD for.
On top of that you say you understand Intel, but at the same time call AMD users for hypocrites.
jwb1
Does Intel do marketing or make claims about how their CPUs will work for a certain period of time in chipsets? They don't go out there saying we are amazing our CPUS work in X mobo chipset, X2 mobo chipset, X3 mobo chipset, X4 mobo chipset, etc. Nope. We know what to expect from Intel in this regard. Does AMD? They sure damn hell do. And AMD fans push that narrative ALL the time. This is an aboutface for AMD. Don't try and twist this around. You know very well people on AM4, especially X470 were of the understanding the next Zen 3 processor coming out this year would be drop in compatible (with a new BIOS update). It was literally used by them and fans as a selling point.
Amaze
The image you added in your post is an opinion, not a fact.
If I'm wrong, show me where AMD said old chipsets would support new chips? What people assume and what AMD promise are not one and the same.
