Rumor: Zen 3 sees yet another IPC Significant gain

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#5720239
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I hope this is actual IPC gains and not overall performance gains. If that is the case and we see a 10% IPC gain with say a 5% clock boost then the next Ryzen generation will be amazing!
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As long as these CPUs are compatible with latest X570 motherboards they might be an upgrade option. If it’s new motherboards again then forget about it for me anyway.
#5720265
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SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!.!.!
#5720266
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DW75:

It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
Actually, I think AMD said that this gen will be the last on the AM4 socket it is 7nm tech and not 7nm+ and I think it will require a new socket.
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DW75:

It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
no it isn't.
#5720278
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DW75:

It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
Source please?
#5720284
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I want 4SMT's per core but i guess thats Zen4.
#5720288
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I want way lower latency. Under 30ns:D Low latency AND high corecount is the future 😉
#5720298
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That large unified cache should by itself be enough to raise IPC by a few percent. Add a few tweaks left and right and 10% is definitely possible. As for the clocks... well, something went wrong with the production of current Zen 2 (it got delayed.... twice), and still barely any higher clocks than Zen1 + Apparently this first 7nm round wasn't as good as expected. But with almost one year of further developments, it should definitely do much better and make 4.5 Ghz and up commonplace.
#5720307
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Nice one. Now if they can increase their clocks then Zen3 is going to be a little beast!
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DW75:

Zen 3 is the final gen for AM4.
Thought we were on AM4 until at least 2020...?
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geogan:

As long as these CPUs are compatible with latest X570 motherboards they might be an upgrade option. If it’s new motherboards again then forget about it for me anyway.
I highly doubt it. I'm still betting that the Zen2 APUs will be the last we see for AM4. Watch AMD's release cycles and it doesn't make sense why Zen3 would be for AM4. At the rate they're releasing products, it wouldn't surprise me if the Zen2 Ryzen 3 products are released in 2020 as well.
Zhyr:

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready "With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
That implies nothing about Zen3.
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BLEH!:

Thought we were on AM4 until at least 2020...?
2020 is 11 weeks away, and Zen2 didn't even finish launching yet. 2020 is approaching fast. A CPU thats rumored to launch Q4 2020, and possibly push into Q1 2021 seems to be even borderline on that definition, and I wouldn't be surprised if they change it to a new platform - which is ultimately a good thing as well, since backwards comaptibility for 4 generations of CPUs might start to hold it back.
#5720358
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If the rumors are even remotely accurate, there are no significant changes in the structure of the Zen 3 CPU to worth changing the socket: - Still DDR4 dual-channel - Still 8-core chiplet(s) - Still PCI-e 4.0 (just launched, duh!) - Same USB 3.2 Gen 2 controller on-die (aka, USB 10gbps); Maybe the new CPU will also support the 20gbps version. What they are doing is improving the internals, like unified cache instead of independent CCXes, and probably Zen 3 will support higher IF speeds (also an internal thing). If they move away from AM4 for Ryzen 4000 that would simply be a dick move à la Intel. Technically even B350/X370 could support what Ryzen 4000 seems to bring (which is simply an improvement to the current Zen 2 design, nothing revolutionary like Zen 2 is), if they chose to.
#5720360
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Sounds great, but can't see this coming soon, Zen2 has only been out what a couple months! This won't be for at least 10 months minimum I'd have thought.
#5720373
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Maybe by that time they will manage to produce a chipset without a fan. Also, I believe it when I see it. So hurry up AMD I have a feeling my rig's "dying" sooner than later.
#5720389
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We still need B550 mobos because X570 is too expensive. The cheapest X570 is 170 quid. They have had there money now so please release B550 for the masses.

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