Even IF the alleged 6900XT trades wins with the RTX3080, but priced more reasonably and, hopefully, more easily available, I'd snag it. My PC VEGA64 Red Devil, while a pretty good card, is getting kinda long in the tooth, and can do the native res of my Samsung 3840x1080 144Hz Freesync 2 monitor, the 6900XT would (crosses fingers) let me max out my games at my monitor's native res and still net >100fps.
An clock speed increase from 1.9 Ghz to 2.4 Ghz, would be a huge jump. Especially considering that it's still on a 7nm process node.
Seems a bit too good to be true. But here's hoping that it is, so AMD can better compete at the high end.
Okay if Big Chungus Navi is really clocked at 2.4GHz, has 80 CUs that give more performance each than the last gen, 16GB of GDDR6 with a new cache system that'll be enough to feed that core... how the hell could be what Lisa trolled us with be it? Either it's disastrous in terms of what it should deliver for the specs, falling just short of the 3080 in their own benches, or the biggest Navi is not what they showed us / these specs are faster than a 3080.
If that wasn't the fat Navi which they showed benches of... WHY? Why would they do that? Whatever they think it does to mess with nVidia probably backfired, people probably went out and placed orders for 3080s thinking Radeon group failed again. I know I almost did, and the only thing that held me back was double of the hardware quality combined with the absurd $1130 CAD price tag (13% tax) here... and a lingering doubt that what they showed was really the top card.
Okay if Big Chungus Navi is really clocked at 2.4GHz, has 80 CUs that give more performance each than the last gen, 16GB of GDDR6 with a new cache system that'll be enough to feed that core... how the hell could be what Lisa trolled us with be it? Either it's disastrous in terms of what it should deliver for the specs, falling just short of the 3080 in their own benches, or the biggest Navi is not what they showed us / these specs are faster than a 3080.
What are you basing the performance on? Hopefully not that terrible misleading graph. Only thing it had right was the game and the resolution.
What are you basing the performance on? Hopefully not that terrible misleading graph. Only thing it had right was the game and the resolution.
The card which you have listed in your specs. You think over 2x that on paper, with a new caching system, and a clock speed of 2.4GHz should be slower than a 3080?
I wouldn't put it past Radeon group to have the ability to screw up so badly that they could light a bowl of cereal on fire by pouring milk into it, and Scott Herkelman is a liar, so it's possible that what they showed really is the biggest Navi. But based on what we know / not assuming the absolute worst, it shouldn't be.
The card which you have listed in your specs. You think over 2x that on paper, with a new caching system, and a clock speed of 2.4GHz should be slower than a 3080?
Well I wouldn’t do that kinda napkin math. It’s on a better process, a “different” architecture and scaling doesn’t work that way I think it will be within spitting distance at least but not by x2 my card as reference.
Well I wouldn’t do that kinda napkin math. It’s on a better process, a “different” architecture and scaling doesn’t work that way I think it will be within spitting distance at least but not by x2 my card as reference.
The napkin math is super conservative. In a worst case scenario even if it isn't faster per CU, which all accounts and common sense say it is, it should still outperform a 3080. Again, not saying Radeon didn't somehow screw things up to monumental levels and those benches aren't the biggest Navi, but that shouldn't be the case.
The napkin math is super conservative. In a worst case scenario even if it isn't faster per CU, which all accounts and common sense say it is, it should still outperform a 3080. Again, not saying Radeon didn't somehow screw things up to monumental levels and those benches aren't the biggest Navi, but that shouldn't be the case.
We can’t go on a 5 second clip of BL3 and our best guesses the high clocks are a good sign.
We can’t go on a 5 second clip of BL3 and our best guesses the high clocks are a good sign.
I'm not going on anything anyone showed, just what I know of the architecture and what it's supposed to be compared to the 1st gen Navi / 5700XT based the supposed specs, most of which I know are real and don't need to listen to any leaker YT channel or anything. Frequency though, that I don't know. 10 days, 10 more days and we'll find out. I expected to be gaming on a 3080 right now but Jesen's trolling knows no bounds. I think his life goal is to have over 50% of the tech literate population of every country hate nVidia.
I'm not going on anything anyone showed, just what I know of the architecture and what it's supposed to be compared to the 1st gen Navi / 5700XT based the supposed specs, most of which I know are real and don't need to listen to any leaker YT channel or anything. Frequency though, that I don't know. 10 days, 10 more days and we'll find out. I expected to be gaming on a 3080 right now but Jesen's trolling knows no bounds. I think his life goal is to have over 50% of the tech literate population of every country hate nVidia.
Well this information definitely gets us a little closer as to what to expect anyway. What of course we really want are some actual performance numbers and I love laughing at AMD “graphs” I hope we don’t have to rely on those....
ive always used amd gpu's (only nvidea was 670 and nothing but issues) and pretty much every card release the drivers were fubar in one way or another. even if its equal to the 3080 guaranty the drivers will screw it all up for months to a year (look how long the black/green screen took to fix on the 5000"s)
sad when you think about it. i dont update drivers untill i see they are ok
ive always used amd gpu's (only nvidea was 670 and nothing but issues) and pretty much every card release the drivers were fubar in one way or another. even if its equal to the 3080 guaranty the drivers will screw it all up for months to a year (look how long the black/green screen took to fix on the 5000"s)
sad when you think about it. i dont update drivers untill i see they are ok
Doubt it, the new Navi architecture isn't a galaxy apart from the old one and AMD are well of aware of the perception of their drivers. This time they're supposedly going "all out" according to those inside the company, I don't know what that means, but I'd be surprised if that didn't include non-crap release drivers.
And for the record, crappy drivers for months is still better than not having a card for months. Reports I hear still say there will not be good supply of the 3080s, especially outside of the US, until well into 2021.
I forgot to mention, this release of Navi 21 is pretty delayed... repeatedly delayed. So they've had extra time to work on the drivers as well. So if the drivers on launch suck, I'd be at a loss for words.
Doubt it, the new Navi architecture isn't a galaxy apart from the old one and AMD are well of aware of the perception of their drivers. This time they're supposedly going "all out" according to those inside the company, I don't know what that means, but I'd be surprised if that didn't include non-crap release drivers.
And for the record, crappy drivers for months is still better than not having a card for months. Reports I hear still say there will not be good supply of the 3080s, especially outside of the US, until well into 2021.
I forgot to mention, this release of Navi 21 is pretty delayed... repeatedly delayed. So they've had extra time to work on the drivers as well. So if the drivers on launch suck, I'd be at a loss for words.
Very busy with drivers. I hope they are super sorted for release.
The law of diminishing returns. This new generation of cards will also highlight the cpu bottleneck problem.
Anyway, still looks like a great offering from AMD. Now its all about supply.
10 days.
My hype is diminishing, we will see if they can surprise me. Maybe we will see those 3080 20Gb sooner than expected.
ViperAnaf:
sounds like bs - big navi isnt as powerful as 3080 so amd is fighting it with fake rumors....
Why would they spread false roumors when the unveil is in 10 days? The "hype" is already there, no need to push it further to let everyone down in 10 days. I think thats something RTG learned the hard way last 5 years.
PLEASE. BE. REAL