Rumor: AMD would be planning First rDNA 3 Graphics Cards in october
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cucaulay malkin
good, I can wait a little as long as I know it's worth it.
schmidtbag
I sure hope the chiplet design makes these GPUs much more affordable. Much like with Ryzen, I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of latency if it means I can achieve high performance at a much lower cost.
I assume in some cases, a whole chiplet could be designated for things like RT, which might actually help minimize the latency issue since the cached instructions might not have to be swapped out as often, while also potentially allowing one frame to get raytraced while the next frame is getting rasterized simultaneously.
Kaarme
Considering TSMC must have raised its prices by 30% during the last couple of years, any savings AMD might have with the chiplet design would be used to merely compensate for that. Nvidia doesn't have MCM tech in use yet, so it's hard to imagine RTX prices dropping. Not to mention they both must be quite pleased with the current pricing scheme. During the (still ongoing) chip shortage and miners gladly paying double, there was hardly a reason of competitiveness to drop prices.
Horus-Anhur
Hope it delivers on some good price-performance.
After 2 terrible years, we need some good news, for once.
JamesSneed
It won't from what I have seen about the rumors. The chiplets are cache. So yes the main chiplet will be smaller due to having no L3 but then you will have 2-4 cache chiplets. So no I don't expect any major cost savings especially since TSMC's 5nm is considerably more expensive.
kanenas
From your mouth and to GOD's ear ... But I do not see it.
Venix
@Kaarme I do not think miners are buying anything any time soon. Go check the Bitcoin and eth price.
Kaarme
Yes, but during the crypto craze they did buy everything, so AMD and Nvidia were in an excellent position to keep prices high. Gamers could buy less, so naturally even when the miners stopped buying, the gamers who couldn't get a new card earlier, would then eagerly upgrade their gear, keeping demand high. Prices are slow to drop when demand is there. Now it's getting better, of course, but depending on where you live, prices can still be higher than they should be (from a consumer's pov).
Mpampis
We'll have to see the prices on those. I'd like to upgrade sometime, but I also have to pay rent.
anticupidon
Still holding on my RX580.
Will see what GPU may be available in Q4, and if the pricing fit my budgetary limits.
No hurry, no pre-ordering.
pegasus1
Casual miners are offloading quickly as the market melts, there will be a flood of cheap cards on the market, which effects the supply and demand equation. Why pay top coin for a 4***/7*** series when a brand spankers 3800/6900xt can be had for under £900. 2nd hand will be way way less than that.
Horus-Anhur
There is an increasing number of used GPUs on sites like ebay. And prices seem to be getting lower.
A quick search for 3080's and found several around 500 mark. Some already in the 400 range.
By the time the RTX 4000 and RX 7000 release, used prices will be very low.
These might have better performance than the RTX 3000 and RX 6000 cards.
But 300 euros for a used 3080 will be very hard to beat.
Undying
3080 will never be 300euros even when 40 series is released just look at the turing 2070/2080 they still cost same as 3060/3060ti.
Horus-Anhur
Just let all those miners get a bit more desperate.
schmidtbag
Yes, TSMC's price increase had occurred to me. But considering how massive GPU dies are getting, even shrinking them by half the size would surely make up a greater cost difference than the 30% increase from TSMC. In any case, I don't expect AMD to drop prices much, especially considering what they're charging for low-end devices like the 6500. This of course assumes I'm even right about how they'll go about chiplets. That being said:
That's too bad, but, even if the caches are on their own dies, that would still make a significant impact on size. When looking at the Navi 22 die, the L3 cache makes up a pretty large chunk:
https://preview.redd.it/ymxnq8ptus181.jpg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43c443261e1cdb97fd3c951f61212546bbdd9213
Something tells me they aren't going to outright remove the L3 in place of the external chiplets, but it might be reduced.
Venix
All those cards that got snatched at once during the craze will flood the market .it happen twice already 2014 and 18 ....and this time was the longer one , before the craze you could get a 570 for 120-130 euros ....it was insane value !
Krizby
Look like AMD is very confident with RDNA3, seeing as AMD showing their hands before Nvidia does (or at least at the same time)
CPC_RedDawn
I hope this is true as well.
I just have a funny feeling that Intel is holding their cards back to swoop in and get super aggressive on pricing. RTX3070 performance for $300? Holding back also gives them more time to perfect their drivers too. Intel need to make a splash if they want to gain any ground over Nvidia and AMD in the dGPU space.
Silva
There, I fixed that for you.
Undying
Of course its gonna be greatest amd generation since Tahiti 7000 series, ironic isnt it? :P
