Review: PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Hellhound Spectral White
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Maddness
Great review as always. Thanks Hilbert. Looks like a very nice card, it's performance is really good and thermals are exceptional.
Embra
RT performance is really not that bad with these 7xxx cards. AMD seems to be catching up faster then expected. You take the 4090 out, and AMD looks very good.
I wish I made the white build I wanted, maybe next time.
Undying
It just needs fsr3 and it will be really viable for rt.
Reddoguk
I know i like my weed but 420w is a big no from me. Great review, great card, great performance but that total board power consumption is gonna drain the electric faster than ever. I can barely keep up with UK energy prices as is right now.
I've gone from £40 a month to over £100 a month now so i game a bit less than i used to 🙁
Digilator
Surely you can limit the framerates...
Though, I'm waiting to see how much the 7800/7700 cards draw - kinda looking for something under 200w and at least ~1.8x faster. At 1080p, the 5700XT is still OK, so can wait.
Cave Waverider
I wish more video cards came with a white PCB.
Neo Cyrus
The 4090 is the only 102 die they're selling this gen... it's the successor to the 3080/3080 12GB/3080 Ti/3090/3090 Ti, yes there were 5 cards based on the 102 chip last gen. The 4080 is the much smaller 103.
There's something obviously seriously wrong the performance of the 7900 series, rumour has it, a critical bug was fixed a literal day before their presentation where they gave out false numbers.
Valken
Performance is really good but the price when you look at RT performance.
tunejunky
like what? please be specific because once the vapor chamber issue was fixed there are no reports of anything "wrong" and as they kick the ass of the 4080 and down at higher resolutions (without fake frames or software sampling) idk what you are on about.
as far as RT who really cares? only a fraction of actual gamers use RT at all because of the performance hit - and i'm talking Nvidia owners too.
RT was and is a marketing gimmick as it was introduced far too early and only now (w/ trickery) is it even usable at playable (50+ fps) rates.
sykozis
And RT performance affects what? Less than .1% of games?
Neo Cyrus
From what I heard it crippled the overall performance, and those fake AMD charts were actually true until that bug was fixed. The bug was described as causing artifacts several hours into gameplay, with 100% frequency. The AMD charts' lower end estimates were generally above the highest real world results, so the gap is huge. Sounds like a hardware flaw to me.
Does it matter that it's near 0%? Nearly all big name titles that are released now come with RT, and people are really into it. Personally I think we're quite a while (at least 2 gens) away from RT mattering a lot, but I'm in the minority.
sykozis
If you're going to push something as a selling point in every single thread, at least have justification for it.... RT performance is relevant in less than 0.1% of games. So why prioritize it? It's still little more than a gimmick to sell overpriced cards.
Neo Cyrus
Like I said, all the new big titles have it, so it's irrelevant what the total % is now.
sykozis
The total % will always be relevant because not every gamer is restricting themselves to only playing the latest games.
Neo Cyrus
But to those who buy mid to high end video cards (as in what's realistically RT capable)? A mid range video card is so absurdly expensive these days that I can't imagine them not wanting to play the latest games. And I think you underestimate the hype machine that is nVidia, they could shit in a bag and call it gamer essence, and bundle it with video cards, and their fans would argue like rabid dogs that it's a massive selling point. I'm just telling you what I've anecdotally seen, there's a lot of people convinced that RT is absolutely critical, right now as it is, no matter how shit it currently is.
Valken
I agree with you but I LOVE RTRT GI, SSR and Realtime shadows. It looks fab and I wish AMD to keep moving forward.
RT is the future but for 1K USD, how long do you want to keep the GPU or go half price with DLSS and FSR to run 60+ RASTER until RTRT 4K 60+ FPS native is working for all games?
cucaulay malkin
It'll use fsr2+interpolation so let them get this to be presentable first cause the amount of shimmer it produces is a serious health hazard.
maybe he's looking at averages not cherry pick results, in reality the difference is 2-4% at best.
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeon-RX-7000-Grafikkarte-278190/Tests/Radeon-7900-XTX-7900-XT-Test-Benchmark-Review-1409055/3/
https://www.purepc.pl/test-wydajnosci-20-kart-graficznych-nvidia-geforce-i-amd-radeon-ranking-najpopularniejszych-modeli?page=0,28
the only noticeable difference between 7900xtx and 4080 at 4K is +100w power draw on the amd card, worse ray tracing (we're talking +1000eur enthusiast level cards here, not consoles) and crappy fsr2 which you can't even swap for a better dll vs dlss2.x.x + working frame generation.
if rt is a gimmick, why does amd have it and improve it ? you'd think they would compensate with rasterized performance and efficiency instead, but no. they only crammed 24GB of vram on a card that'll never even touch the 4090 at 4/5K
Funny there's people who buy enthusiast tier cards and think rtgi is a gimmick, compared to console level rasterized light.
rtgi vs original gi - Imgsli
tunejunky
1) RT is a "gimmick" on cards that cannot use it.
i talked about playable frame rates (50+) and if RT was the reason someone bought lower than a 4080/7900 they are sorely disappointed and have to use more trickery (Dlss/Fsr) to do what they already paid for.
2) the biggest difference between 4080 & 7900xtx is the fact that the AMD card has a longer relevant life w/ more VRAM for 4k where the 4080 suffers.
3) stop cherry picking and start looking at the overall point being made
RT is still an emerging tech with low adoption rates, high cost of entry, and low performance.
skija
Another card from Powercolor with the lowest temps in full load
Maddness
Yeah i'm really liking what they are doing. They may well end up passing Sapphire as my favorite AMD card maker.
