Review: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Gaming Z (6G)

Passus

2019-01-16 13:16

quantum hacker:

Fools. First. Yes, 4k is standard despite you not owning it because you continuing to fund overpriced nvidia low end performance cards and panel manufacturers who continue to milk 2000's level tech. Don't you get that phone's have been doing 1440p for years and 4k monitors have been out for nearly a decade already!?! All new TVs now are f**king 4K. Second. OF COURSE 60HZ IS LOW AND THIS CARD CAN NOT DO IT at 4K CONSISTENTLY. DEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people 😉 4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet. consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur

#5628280

H1TMANza

2019-01-16 15:45

I know this is a painful request, but could you perhaps test BF V in DX11 in future . I just feel DX12 is a mess and shouldnt be used to judge any graphics cards performance.

#5628325

Loophole35

2019-01-16 17:35

Passus:

First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people 😉 4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet. consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur

Don't worry he wont last long here with that nerd rage he's got.

#5628445

Exodite

2019-01-16 21:09

FrostNixon:

As much as I want to support AMDA I don't feel like they can reach the performance of 2060 for this price with the next release.

sykozis:

Like FrostNixon, I don't see Navi touching the performance at a similar price.

I'm honestly curious now, what's the price delta between Vega 56 and the RTX 2060 on your end locally? Because here it's pretty much equal, though obviously with the RTX 2060 being so new it's anyone's guess how it'll develop. The reviews I've read puts Vega 56 within 5% of the RTX 2060 so I figure either relative pricing would have to be very different on your end or you have extremely low hopes for any future GPU development. Which I wouldn't blame anyone for mind you, it's not like the last 3 years have been a huge bundle of excitement on the GPU front. 🙁

#5628597

sykozis

2019-01-17 04:52

Exodite:

I'm honestly curious now, what's the price delta between Vega 56 and the RTX 2060 on your end locally? Because here it's pretty much equal, though obviously with the RTX 2060 being so new it's anyone's guess how it'll develop. The reviews I've read puts Vega 56 within 5% of the RTX 2060 so I figure either relative pricing would have to be very different on your end or you have extremely low hopes for any future GPU development. Which I wouldn't blame anyone for mind you, it's not like the last 3 years have been a huge bundle of excitement on the GPU front. 🙁

For me... PowerColor Red Dragon Vega 56 is $340 Asus ROG Vega 56 is $700 Asus RTX2060 is $350 As MSI and Asus are my preferred brands, it's really a no-brainer to go with the RTX2060 there.... With 7nm being so new and given the expected price/performance of the Radeon VII, I have fairly low expectations for Navi at this point. My upgrade isn't planned until mid-summer, so AMD still has time to pull off something big, if they actually can. I'm just not going to get my hopes up at this point. The RTX2060 is roughly double the performance of my current RX470 so paying the higher price for a Vega 56 is not an option. That's why I've kept the RX470 to begin with. AMD just has nothing to "upgrade" to that makes sense right now.

#5628617

cowie

2019-01-17 06:38

sykozis:

GTX2060 is going for $350 to $415 USD.... If prices hold, I'll probably be picking one up in the summer since NVidia has decided to support adaptive-sync.... Like FrostNixon, I don't see Navi touching the performance at a similar price.

I need something but I am not getting another 1k+ card to boost guys xp points in bfv since I don't really game too much,waiting for ss4 1/2 and I can get bfv for free with a nv card .i have been using a msi 750 ti but that wont do, I am holding off on a new monitor. I wish we would get a 2070ti or a busted 2070gpu on a 256 bit bus 2060 ti sooner then later. msi card sold out at the egg the trigger on 1 this week new cards are so boring now a days but whatever

#5628624

sykozis

2019-01-17 07:06

cowie:

I need something but I am not getting another 1k+ card to boost guys xp points in bfv since I don't really game too much,waiting for ss4 1/2 and I can get bfv for free with a nv card .i have been using a msi 750 ti but that wont do, I am holding off on a new monitor. I wish we would get a 2070ti or a busted 2070gpu on a 256 bit bus 2060 ti sooner then later. msi card sold out at the egg the trigger on 1 this week new cards are so boring now a days but whatever

I don't really NEED something new. A GTX1060 would easily accomplish my goal, but I prefer to buy current gen cards when I do get around to upgrading. I play Roblox with my son (him on XBox and me on PC), TL, TL2, DA:O, DA2 and occasionally BF4 or SimCity. My current build runs everything (except SimCity) with more than acceptable framerates. I just want something new. As you said though, new cards are boring now a days. I get more excited about new processors...and even those are getting boring quickly. I always thought ray tracing coming to consumer graphics cards would be exciting, but, even it is of no interest to me now....

#5628714

Exodite

2019-01-17 11:51

sykozis:

For me... PowerColor Red Dragon Vega 56 is $340 Asus ROG Vega 56 is $700

That's a pretty significant variance, yikes!

sykozis:

With 7nm being so new and given the expected price/performance of the Radeon VII, I have fairly low expectations for Navi at this point.

Understandable. FWIW Radeon 7 is supposedly 29% faster than Vega 64 according to AMDs testing, with suitable amounts of salt applied I'd say a new architecture should be able to outdo that. Applied to a suitable performance range that leaves me hopeful Navi should be able to comfortably outperform and/or come in notably cheaper than the Vega 56/GTX 1070Ti/RTX 2060 tier of cards. Same goes for Nvidia's 7nm architecture obviously. Though in either case we're going to be waiting a while, which perhaps is the best reason to consider a RTX 2060 if you're in need of an upgrade now.

#5628718

Undying

2019-01-17 12:05

These are the prices here where i live and probably most of the EU, not so good. I even saw used 1080ti for not that much more. https://i.postimg.cc/3x3CvnwT/Untitled.png

#5628755

metagamer

2019-01-17 13:57

deusex:

So technically if I go SLI, I will spend less money and beat 2080ti.?

If only it was that simple.

#5628815

Loophole35

2019-01-17 15:03

deusex:

So technically if I go SLI, I will spend less money and beat 2080ti.?

SLI is only avalible on the 2080 and 2080Ti this gen. Nvidia is being an ass with that.

#5628844

Passus

2019-01-17 15:27

deusex:

So technically if I go SLI, I will spend less money and beat 2080ti.?

SLI is not supported on the 2060 cards just like its not available on 1060 either

#5628853

cowie

2019-01-17 15:44

sykozis:

I don't really NEED something new. A GTX1060 would easily accomplish my goal, but I prefer to buy current gen cards when I do get around to upgrading. I play Roblox with my son (him on XBox and me on PC), TL, TL2, DA:O, DA2 and occasionally BF4 or SimCity. My current build runs everything (except SimCity) with more than acceptable framerates. I just want something new. As you said though, new cards are boring now a days. I get more excited about new processors...and even those are getting boring quickly. I always thought ray tracing coming to consumer graphics cards would be exciting, but, even it is of no interest to me now....

well I need something I would have got a 580 or a 1060 pos already. as for sli this Is the card the brainiacs can use to break the issues since they are cheaper. was ready to get two 2070's but they f'ed us on that,since I always get two cards just in case I break one ...er I mean is was doa. 2060's would still tank at higher resolutions anyway In the meantime the amd cards have orgy's mixing and matching 😛

#5628859

Andrew LB

2019-01-17 15:58

Passus:

First chill out a bit buddy, second its not nice to shout at people 😉 4K may be a standard in movies and TV but NOT gaming yet. consoles may be advertising 4K but its all trickery and fancy effects with crap load of blur

Do any cable providers actually carry content in native 4k? Last i recall, Directv had 1 channel and some special content. Until most major networks are broadcast in 4k, i wont consider it a standard.

#5628861

Denial

2019-01-17 16:04

Andrew LB:

Do any cable providers actually carry content in native 4k? Last i recall, Directv had 1 channel and some special content. Until most major networks are broadcast in 4k, i wont consider it a standard.

No but I think most people consider Netflix/Amazon Prime/Hulu/etc TV now-in-days

#5628869

Loophole35

2019-01-17 16:19

Denial:

No but I think most people consider Netflix/Amazon Prime/Hulu/etc TV now-in-days

streamed 4k and native 4k media are two different things. Streamed 4k rarely looks better than a standard bluray.

#5628871

Denial

2019-01-17 16:23

Loophole35:

streamed 4k and native 4k media are two different things. Streamed 4k rarely looks better than a standard bluray.

Well yeah the bitrate is lower then a blu-ray but the resolution is still native 4K (UHD).

#5628876

Loophole35

2019-01-17 16:29

Denial:

Well yeah the bitrate is lower then a blu-ray but the resolution is still native 4K (UHD).

Color compression kills any gain from resolution. 4K will not be standard until TV broadcast of both NFL and World Cup. That is the point it will be a "standard".

#5628950

dfsdfs1112

2019-01-17 20:26

Why does not HDMI 2.1 ???

#5629386

Fox2232

2019-01-19 08:11

Denial:

Well yeah the bitrate is lower then a blu-ray but the resolution is still native 4K (UHD).

I am more listening to all series than watching them. If there is more to watch than to listen, then they usually do not have enough story to keep me watching. 720p is more than enough for me. Hell, Audio book has sufficient image resolution.