Review: MSI B350M Gaming Pro with Ryzen 5 2400G
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Vananovion
Overclocking the iGPU seems to give quite a big performance boost (~10-15%). Also, it's going to be interesting to see what 4/8GB of memory can do for the performance.
Has anyone tried running it in tandem with a big Vega? Would be interesting to see if they can work together.
SpajdrEX
Vananovion
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Warrax
The iGPU performance is really impressive, good job AMD!
Vananovion
Thanks boss, good to know it's official.
SpajdrEX
Jagman
Nice to see a review on this motherboard. I've had one for about 10 months now, BIOS needed work but after updating it stabilized and has got a bit better with each update since. Fingers crossed it continues that way:)
Reddoguk
I said 2018 would be the year APU's could potentially run games @1080p 60 fps. Not quite there yet but we still have 9months of 2018 left. I'm guessing the next iGPU version will handle it just fine.
Dimitrios1983
The way the market is going I may just stop buying video cards and pop in a APU every few years and game at Medium/High settings.
Reddoguk
I turn all my game settings to low usually anyway for online games. I see a lot of pros doing it even though they have 10,000 $ machines.
Once APU's have doubled up on GPU performance and they allow more ram/faster ram then i see no reason for a dedicated GPU. You'd probably cut energy bills in half as well for a bonus. I can imagine a sweet 8 core APU with twice the GPU power of the 2400G and 8gb of DDR4/5 3200+ for a buffer.
AcidSnow
The memory allocation part does NOT improve performance at all... Allocating 2GB, or 256KB makes no performance difference of the graphics APU. What it does do is set a limit on memory available to the rest of the system.
TLDR: There is no performance benefit achieved by giving 2GB to the APU in the BIOS. Doing this actually restricts memory to the rest of the PC, and is bad.
storm83
looking at the performance put out by the current set of APU's, i think i will start saving up for the next gen.
i have mostly stopped buying AAA titles anyway, and have gone the route of casual indy and emulation - and i suspect that with the next gen, the gpu part will be more than capable for my needs...
ITX box, here i come!
Vananovion
mamaduxo
SpajdrEX
Some games don't even start when setting just 64MB, for example Guild Wars 2
For benchmark, World of Tanks enCore also does not start.
Reddoguk
I think 16gb will be needed for best results, 8gb for system, 8gb for gfx. I believe the method of using DDR4/5 for a Buffer will improve by a lot.
8gb of ram is getting Very close to not being enough now. 12gb/16gb is the sweet spot i believe at this moment. Especially if you intend to use an APU and a large buffer.
This method is pretty new(2gb+ buffer) so i think it'll take a year or two but by 2020 i expect an 8core APU with double Vega 11 performance all on 7nm. 100w total. Will easily reach 60fps on 99% of games @1080p. Zen 2 is going to be my next upgrade 100%.
waltc3
D3M1G0D
FYI, my board (ASRock AB350 Pro4) already shows larger options:
https://i.imgur.com/tuyKlE6.png
It doesn't seem to affect the actual allocation though - still only shows 2 GB max, so support might not be entire there yet.
Agonist
Man these APUS are damn good for what they are.
My friend has this board, R5 1600, 16GB DDR4 2400 Gskill, and a Fury X.
Its does very good at 144hz gaming. Most games he pushes 100fps @ 1080p.
If I didnt already have a 1500x, and be getting a R5 2600 next month, Id get a the quad core APU for a 4k HTPC with super cheap 8GB DDR4 2133