Review: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM (QD-OLED monitor)

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great review awesome product, but clearly one is paying the 32" tax as the ROG pg42 (ok it's 2 1/2 year old and no MLA) is 42" and basically the same price. but as far as gaming monitors that are "regular" desktop size this rules all.
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Is there a reason for the lack of DP 2.1 on new high end monitor relases???
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H83:

Is there a reason for the lack of DP 2.1 on new high end monitor relases???
Is it necessary?
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AuerX:

Is it necessary?
For this kind of prices, yes. And people tend to keep screens for a long time, so it helps to be future proof...
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H83:

For this kind of prices, yes. And people tend to keep screens for a long time, so it helps to be future proof...
Things have been moving at a pretty good pace with Monitors lately, I feel 2 years is a reasonable upgrade cycle currently.
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AuerX:

Things have been moving at a pretty good pace with Monitors lately, I feel 2 years is a reasonable upgrade cycle currently.
Changing screens very two years is too much for me... I like to keep my monitors for at least 6 years.
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H83:

Changing screens very two years is too much for me... I like to keep my monitors for at least 6 years.
You're definitely getting value out of yours then.
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Power consumption pictures are misaligned. Unless max power draw is while there is black screen...which would be weird.
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AuerX:

Is it necessary?
yes for longevity (i.e. being relevant longer) it means that the monitor doesn't have to rely on DSC but only two gpus have that (i have both of them) so until Nvidia decides on whether or not to provide a non-compressed bit stream by adding DP 2.1 on next gen i can't say that it's necessary now. but i can say it will be a question vs.the monitors with DP2.1 down the road and i'm a ROG owner (pg42). Nvidia was at the forefront of developing DSC as a standard and even making it a selling point on some of their products, so i'm not holding my breath until they see the demand. so in the meantime AMD will have another niche w/ creatives in a pro/am market
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GREGIX:

Power consumption pictures are misaligned. Unless max power draw is while there is black screen...which would be weird.
Ah, they where reversed, fixed and thanks!
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H83:

Is there a reason for the lack of DP 2.1 on new high end monitor relases???
AuerX:

Is it necessary?
You need DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 (80 Gbps) if you want to skip DSC compression at its native 4K@240 Hz, which requires ~55 Gbit/s video bandwidth (~58 Gbit/s total) according to VESA CVT 2.1 spreadsheet - so even UHBR13.5 (54 Gbps) is not enough. FYI of all recently announced 240 Hz gaming monitors, only Gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P QD-OLED (NB the model ends with U2P, not just U2) and Samsung Neo G9 S57CG95 QLED include DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 (80 Gbps).
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tunejunky:

great review awesome product, but clearly one is paying the 32" tax as the ROG pg42 (ok it's 2 1/2 year old and no MLA) is 42" and basically the same price. but as far as gaming monitors that are "regular" desktop size this rules all.
the 32" tax? Have you seen the PG42UQ in person? You're paying for better - Viewing angles (in terms of numbers pg42 is not even close but the difference aint who knows what to the naked eye) - 240 Hz (pg42 is not even close) - APL/HDR (pg42 is not even close) - Full Screen SDR Brightness (200 nits is trash I'm staring at them 24/7) - Production ready (factory calibration on all the 32 qd-oleds is outstanding - pg42 is not even close) - Screen coating (matte vs semi-gloss) - 80% Rec 2020 color volume coverage (pg42 is 59%, yet again not even close) That last one truly takes the crown however. That and the APL. That actually is the reason the APL is higher. //little edit, saw you mentioned you're a pg42 owner, so now I'm wondering even more wtf.
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IceVip:

the 32" tax? Have you seen the PG42UQ in person? You're paying for better - Viewing angles (in terms of numbers pg42 is not even close but the difference aint who knows what to the naked eye) - 240 Hz (pg42 is not even close) - APL/HDR (pg42 is not even close) - Full Screen SDR Brightness (200 nits is trash I'm staring at them 24/7) - Production ready (factory calibration on all the 32 qd-oleds is outstanding - pg42 is not even close) - Screen coating (matte vs semi-gloss) - 80% Rec 2020 color volume coverage (pg42 is 59%, yet again not even close) That last one truly takes the crown however. That and the APL. That actually is the reason the APL is higher. //little edit, saw you mentioned you're a pg42 owner, so now I'm wondering even more wtf.
you are totally misunderstanding both myself and the monitor market. i completely understand the differences between a nearly 3 year old monitor and today's latest. FACT: all 32" monitors are sold at a premium - fair or unfair and you can include 34" as well - that's the "tax" i was speaking of. even a janky 1080p VA is sold at a premium. the only monitors to have a "fair" msrp are 24". i paid a hell of a premium in having a 42" and another one for buying a ROG (for the heatsink) i wasn't saying the pg42 was better - at all, i referred to the pricing. i chose the pg42 over the exact same panel in the LG C2 and Aorus (whateva' the hell the oled model #) for ppi and immersion in December of 2022. simply put again, there has always been a "tax" on plus sized desktop monitors. if you don't know that you don't know the industry. i've been building pc's from the days of DOS and in my professional capacity i'm a vendor to oems, but i used to work at a major monitor manufacturer (much bigger than Asus or any pc only brand) that's a household name.
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tunejunky:

you are totally misunderstanding both myself and the monitor market. i completely understand the differences between a nearly 3 year old monitor and today's latest. FACT: all 32" monitors are sold at a premium - fair or unfair and you can include 34" as well - that's the "tax" i was speaking of. even a janky 1080p VA is sold at a premium. the only monitors to have a "fair" msrp are 24". i paid a hell of a premium in having a 42" and another one for buying a ROG (for the heatsink) i wasn't saying the pg42 was better - at all, i referred to the pricing. i chose the pg42 over the exact same panel in the LG C2 and Aorus (whateva' the hell the oled model #) for ppi and immersion in December of 2022. simply put again, there has always been a "tax" on plus sized desktop monitors. if you don't know that you don't know the industry. i've been building pc's from the days of DOS and in my professional capacity i'm a vendor to oems, but i used to work at a major monitor manufacturer (much bigger than Asus or any pc only brand) that's a household name.
Given the fact that it's the first of its kind, why would its price be any lower? Remember when the AW3423DW was announced and people were shocked at how cheap it was(1,300$)? A monitor tech that did not exist in a form factor that did not exist under that tech. They could've asked for 2,000$ and have gotten away with it but they didn't. And this 32" is that plus more. I know you obviously didn't mean the pg42 was better. But the way you delivered the line sounded like the monitor had nothing going for it except it being the form factor everyone has been long waiting for. The 321urx is 950$ so that 400$ gap is weird af ngl. But I'm still grateful these things don't cost over 5,000$. Because I remember when the first 27 inch oled came out and lg slapped.. what was it, 10k or 9 I don't even remember. And now that thing in terms of specs is trash against this specific display. So yes, you're right there's a 'tax'. But considering how far we've come and how stuff that could've costed five figures is closer to three than five is a win in my book. It's not like i can go and build my own damn display. Good things in life cost $ and that's that.
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I ordered mine februari 20th in the netherlands and i am still waiting expected delivery time is unknown. Considering putting it on an ergotron hx (overkill i know but i want to future proof for something potentially bigger) and this handle https://www.ergotron.com/zh-hk/products/product-details/97-760 so that i dont get fingerprints all over the screen.
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I think its more for what you get for the price. My bro has an LG C2 he got a while back and he bought the 321URX on Newegg and was waiting for the order, I then got the 321URX through Best Buy and got the panel the following week and I showed it to him then he was like oh nevermind, I'm going to cancel my order in which he did. He said the panel looks nice but wasn't a complete "upgrade" for him, especially not the price. This is more of an OLED vs OLED at this point. If you're coming from a NanoIPS or MiniLED then its a good upgrade but if you already have one, you can wait it out for something newer or to the point where technology advances and you don't need to worry about burn-ins. He hasn't had any burn ins on his LG C2 and that goes to show that LG has been in the OLED market longer than Samsung so their technology has come a long way. Even with the newer 32" from LG the 32GS95UE-B, the latest and greatest with the MLA panel you're paying $1,399.99 up front, granted with discounts you can get it closer to $1K ($1050 before taxes). You're pretty much paying for early adopter/FOMO prices right now because come a month or two later you'll see the discounts rolling in. Even the AW 32" QD-OLED got down to $1K, I was about to buy that then I saw the 321URX popup on Best Buy and rolled with that. For the 42" monitor, they're pretty much using a TV panel and turned it into a monitor because technically you can use it as a normal monitor and you have every feature you can think of Dolby Vision, Atmos, you get speakers, remote, you could also buy a maintenance remote to access even more settings, you have all the capabilities of a monitor and more, a little bit more durable since its larger, its also way brighter than the issues the current QD-OLED and MLA monitors are currently having, you're just limited to 1 year warranty, slap on a store warranty like BestBuy for 2 or 5 years and you're gold. Sure you're limited to 120/144Hz but you're also at 4K so you'll be pressed hard to drive that, on top of that unless you have DP2.1 and a new GPU that supports it in the future, you're already in DSC territory. So with the new QD-OLEDs these features that are standard on TV's have been the "differences" for prices, buy AW if you want Dolby Vision, Asus will have it later on etc... oh buy MSI if you want KVM, all these features should be standard for the price yet we use it to determine our already $1K purchases. So in a sense, yes you're paying more for getting the latest and greatest in a 32" form factor that everyone has been waiting for, one can say if you just want to break into the OLED market just get a 42" you get more for less, I saw an LG C3 open box excellent for $730, slap on a best buy warranty for 5 years and you're good lol, except I went for the $950 32" QD-OLED, its great for my uses but I feel if you've been using a 42" OLED its hard to justify going down in size and not seeing a "drastic" change as you would if you had an IPS or MiniLED panel. For me personally, I like the 32" QD-OLED but if I was suggesting something to someone who wants to get into OLEDs and don't care about the size I would tell them get a LG C3, open-box excellent and slap a warranty and call it a day lol, you'll be saving a lot more and you get more features out of the box.
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yeah the price is what i'm getting at and as far as the s.o.t.a. nature of this panel, you can buy the exact same one for less. but as i also said, you pay a premium for the form factor
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