I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.

SSD_PRO:

I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.

You're actually complaining about the lack of use of blower style cooling? I can understand the complaint as blower-style coolers dump the heat outside of the case but at the required TDP for these GPUs, it's just unsuitable from a noise level and thermal level. Just look at previous generations of coolers from AMD and Nvidia where TDPs were between 200w and 300w (Remember R9 290X? Those were awful, very noisy and 90°c temps....). With AIBs using their own cooling designs, the "more fans" approach has shown to be better as more fans mean lower RPM of fans giving longer life so it makes sense that reference designs for consumer cards are using this kind of design but of course. That's not to say blower style cooling doesn't have a place for consumers, such as in restricted airflow cases (small form factors) but again, noise and thermals become an issue, nevertheless, blower styles are more suitable in a workstation or server environment where comfort is less of a worry.

The Red Devil variants should prove interesting if made, and available...

SSD_PRO:

I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.

blower style coolers are horribly inefficient and ineffective. If you don't like the cooler design, don't buy the card. It's pretty simple.

SSD_PRO:

I'm tired of the "let see how many fans we can cram on" design. What happened to sucking air in and exhausting it out the back? Now instead of one fan that might start going tick tick tick chinka chinka chinka we have those chances x3. I get this is a stop gap since lithography shrink is slowing thus we get more heat from gpus pushed farther but this doesn't seem pleasant for the consumer. Most people are buying from online stores and these things get just pummeled on their way to you.

You....you realize that blower-style coolers are the bare-minimum style coolers, yeah? Blower-style coolers are interesting in the point that they directly exhaust hot air out your PC, but what's the use of that if it's not able to keep it cooler then one that doesn't exhaust directly outside the PC? Only place i see blower-style coolers work decently is in combination to a hybrid water cooler.

Question.. sorry if this is SO simple yet.. WHY do all the cards have to look the same?

I think they call that Vanilla.

MaxBlade:

Question.. sorry if this is SO simple yet.. WHY do all the cards have to look the same?

I could be wrong about this but i believe, at least at first, only reference cards will be released. I'm not though certain why reference cards are simply not produced by AMD and only AMD, similar to the FE cards from nvidia, maybe a production speed issue? Not sure.

Aura89:

I could be wrong about this but i believe, at least at first, only reference cards will be released. I'm not though certain why reference cards are simply not produced by AMD and only AMD, similar to the FE cards from nvidia, maybe a production speed issue? Not sure.

Marketing and economical reasons. All built from AMD and shipped to partners. Perhaps AMD is getting paid a tiny amount/income cut for that AiB stickers placed to their reference product.

Well I got some insight about price etc and it's a bit pricey. That's all I can say for now.. at least in EU with taxes.

-Tj-:

Well I got some insight about price etc and it's a bit pricey. That's all I can say for now.. at least in EU with taxes.

spill the beans. 800eur?

Could be around 750-800€-ish. Those 16 GB of HBM2 are stirring interest from content creators, and AIBs can smell that like sharks smell blood in water.