PowerColor Launches RX Vega Nano

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#5583338
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Very, very cool.
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The VEGA stock clearing has begun
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Be interesting to see what the Nvidia task force does to combat this GPU and deceive more people again.
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This is only place where I see Vega as valuable. it can't compete in high performance vs. price as it hits TDP wall quickly. But it can compete in low power, high performance for exactly same reason. Take 300W Vega, reduce clock a bit, reduce voltage a bit and it simply starts to look interesting... for tiny specific market. Question is: At what Price?
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"Question is: At what Price?" 800/ 900 euros...
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Pimpiklem:

Be interesting to see what the Nvidia task force does to combat this GPU and deceive more people again.
Nvidia doesnt have to do much. Their overstocks of 1070/1080 at lower prices should do the trick.
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alanm:

Nvidia doesnt have to do much. Their overstocks of 1070/1080 at lower prices should do the trick.
If they fit into micro PCs...
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Yeah. Aside from dual GPU cards, no video card these days needs to be larger than that components wise. HBM hardly saves any significant space, it just makes the PCB a bit simpler (though on the other hand it requires its interposer). It's only to include more cooling capacity and potency that normal video cards are much larger. Otherwise it's wasted space.
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MK80:

"Question is: At what Price?" 800/ 900 euros...
the normal Vega is still at higher price... so i imagine in tiny version.
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Kaarme:

Yeah. Aside from dual GPU cards, no video card these days needs to be larger than that components wise. HBM hardly saves any significant space, it just makes the PCB a bit simpler (though on the other hand it requires its interposer). It's only to include more cooling capacity and potency that normal video cards are much larger. Otherwise it's wasted space.
HBM hardly saves any significant space. (you being serious ?) Only all the space ddr5 uses up and that is 25% of the pcb Less distance to travel the better wouldn't you say.. http://i68.tinypic.com/120l4ys.jpg
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this is LAN-box crack 😎 idk wtf the Euro price will be but in the US it will be well under $500...and i wonder if the water-block for the blower version will fit...both boards are quite small (the fans and heat sinks are bigger than the boards on regular Vega 56's). sexy and perfect for a ryzen 7 2700 (or less) in a sff...with a ryzen 5 you could build the whole system around $800.00 and use your Samsung tv for freesync
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Pimpiklem:

HBM hardly saves any significant space. (you being serious ?) Only all the space ddr5 uses up and that is 25% of the pcb
I'm perfectly serious. The GTX 1080 card Alanm linked to is the same size as that Vega Nano, despite using GDDR. This is because the memory tech used is not significant in this equation. The size of the single fan, the underlying cooling element, and the size of the PCIe connector itself are the significant factors. If the GDDR chips couldn't fit under these primary factors, forcing a bigger pcb, then I wouldn't have posted what I did.
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Still not single slot variant...
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Pimpiklem:

How long until CPU GPU HBM2 and system ram fit into a single package. It will happen eventually its the obvious direction. How will 3rd party vendors survive in that environment.
By 300W standard.
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Fox2232:

By 300W standard.
stack the silicon rather than placing it side by side.
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Pimpiklem:

stack the silicon rather than placing it side by side.
No, that's how AIBs survive such scenario. How many watts you want to put through CPU package? And is that enough for both CPU, GPU and HBM? I mean, stock CPUs on both sides go around 100W, little OC and 150W, more OC 180~200W. Good gaming GPUs start at 140W, now flagsip even in nVidia's camp goes to 275W at stock clocks. Simple as it is, One socket for CPU/APU does not have enough power and cooling capability to handle what High end gaming system handles. Other thing is, that GPU is soldered on its PCB. CPU is touching contact points. Resistance can be pretty bad bastard at high currents. So there will be this additional PCIe slot and 300W limit for card in it. Yeah, if AMD made dual socket board. One socket for CPU and other socket for GPU connect them via infinity fabric. We would see crazy powerful and small computers. They would just need good cooling. But that will not happen in foreseeable future.

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