144/165 is the low end standard of gaming monitors these days right? I was searching for a new monitor recently and it looks like anything over 144 isn't super helpful unless you're a competitive gamer or something along those lines.

Brasky:

144/165 is the low end standard of gaming monitors these days right? I was searching for a new monitor recently and it looks like anything over 144 isn't super helpful unless you're a competitive gamer or something along those lines.

I have a dual monitor setup, 4K 144hz for single player story-based games and 240hz for some overwatch and rocket league action (not that much better than 144hz but feels smoother anyway). Works perfectly for me.

Brasky:

144/165 is the low end standard of gaming monitors these days right? I was searching for a new monitor recently and it looks like anything over 144 isn't super helpful unless you're a competitive gamer or something along those lines.

Yeah well, even 144 is not "perceivable" with our senses but anyway we are going for higher Hz no matter what. Thus we have the "feeling" that they are smoother cause some Super slow camera on some Linus Tech tips test measured it and concluded that it is better. Of course higher Hz it is better but I doubt that the average or even the experienced human eye + brain can see and comprehend those differences. Not to say the faster reaction time because of it which is not existent. 😀

this is actually really nice...except for using a VA panel - you can guarantee some smear within a lighting zone as each zone covers roughly 4 pixels. i think they considered that manageable as they don't have to worry as much about crushed blacks with a FALD. something tells me they OEM VA panels that are cheaper than paying Sammy or LG for fast IPS. but this exact same set with a fast IPS i'd be singing the praises of for immersive gaming.

I always stop reading when I see VA

sfdmark:

Yeah well, even 144 is not "perceivable" with our senses but anyway we are going for higher Hz no matter what. Thus we have the "feeling" that they are smoother cause some Super slow camera on some Linus Tech tips test measured it and concluded that it is better. Of course higher Hz it is better but I doubt that the average or even the experienced human eye + brain can see and comprehend those differences. Not to say the faster reaction time because of it which is not existent. 😀

Well you doubt wrong. I use a 240Hz monitor (Scamdung Odyssey G7), and even though it's severely diminishing returns to the point that I'd say it's not necessarily worth it, it's very obviously noticeable if you look at say 120 vs 240 one after another. And I assure you 144 is perfectly "perceivable" vs even 100 if you're used to it. For me 120 is already in the range of "good enough" to the point that it would rarely, if ever, bother me... but I can see why competitive esports players would want higher. Personally, I'd rather have a real HDR (or something closer) 120Hz 4K monitor than this 240Hz 1440p HDR600 one, which is the bare minimum for a better than SDR look.

Venix:

I always stop reading when I see VA

As you should, the only VAs worth considering are exclusively from Scamdung. And that's only if you really care about having deeper blacks than IPS. VAs from other companies have so many issues that it's a joke. Not least of which includes dark level smearing.

Venix:

I always stop reading when I see VA

Why? VA panes are decent this days. As you should, the only VAs worth considering are exclusively from Scamdung. And that's only if you really care about having deeper blacks than IPS. VAs from other companies have so many issues that it's a joke. Not least of which includes dark level smearing. All these manufacturers use samsung displays so they are all the same.

Undying:

Why? VA panes are decent this days.

they're still plagued by smearing and overshoot. especially the cheaper ones, while even cheap IPS's are amazing in motion.

Undying:

All these manufacturers use samsung displays so they are all the same.

Well then they're screwing something up royally because all but the Scamdung branded ones have very bad dark level smearing. And they also have worse viewing angles, and worse colours. Not to mention far FAR inferior performance, the G7 for example has real proper working dynamic overdrive meanwhile the overdrive situation for most monitors is a dumpster fire.

sfdmark:

Yeah well, even 144 is not "perceivable" with our senses but anyway we are going for higher Hz no matter what. Thus we have the "feeling" that they are smoother cause some Super slow camera on some Linus Tech tips test measured it and concluded that it is better. Of course higher Hz it is better but I doubt that the average or even the experienced human eye + brain can see and comprehend those differences. Not to say the faster reaction time because of it which is not existent. 😀

Our eyes and brains can process up till 1000 Hz easy. If not more. It just makes everything smoother and more realistic. If you put a flashing light at 60hz and compare it to 1000hz there won't be much difference but if it's a moving image the story is different. For example you might not see an object fly past at 60hz but you will see it at 240hz

Brasky:

144/165 is the low end standard of gaming monitors these days right? I was searching for a new monitor recently and it looks like anything over 144 isn't super helpful unless you're a competitive gamer or something along those lines.

Well most of people with over 144hz are running a low res panel unless they are on a 5120x1440 49 inch. 3440x1440 is alot more demanding then most think. Some games it was hard to hit 100fps on my 35 inch 3440x1440 100hz panel with a 6800xt. Personally, for most single player games, 75hz is enough, 100hz is great. 144hz is fantastic. Beyond that, personally e sports dweebs are the ones with hard ons above 144hz.

Undying:

Why? VA panes are decent this days. As you should, the only VAs worth considering are exclusively from Scamdung. And that's only if you really care about having deeper blacks than IPS. VAs from other companies have so many issues that it's a joke. Not least of which includes dark level smearing.

All these manufacturers use samsung displays so they are all the same. Smearing I can not stand it I do not care about the deepest blacks but the slightest smearing drives me nuts. Meanwhile I hear people calling the ips glow out and I am still not sure what they mean..... Go figure 😛