PCI-SIG warns; 8-pin to 12VHPWR adapters can get too hot

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southamptonfc:

It's in the title 🙂 12VHPWR
Ah thanks, I wasn't sure. Makes it more difficult though, at times PSUs are marked as that, and still only have an adapter, not the right cable, or even connectors on the side of the PSU. Hence I wasn't sure if I filtered correctly on the websearch.
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Hope AIBs will still use 6 and 8 Pins on 4060 (Ti). Don't want to replace my Seasonic Fanless TX-700 which is not even 2 years old.
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Silva:

RX6600XT has an 8pin connector and is rated for only 160W TDP. I think that's really reasonable! Sadly it's just a medium/low level GPU, but I'd buy if it wasn't overpriced. My RX580 consumes more power! (185W TDP)
yah that what my 1070ti push 185ish on paper it has gona over 200 when really push. I can really feel heat diffrence from 150watt card and 200 watts and i dont really like, so going beyond that isnt gona happen. and prices are outragus at this point[SPOILER] certian xx50 series from nvidia is now price like that xx60 series and xx60series is priced for more then xx70 was. and xx80 is even worse price wise and xx90 series really just titan cards now which cost more then what titans did. I get inflation but this goes well beyond inflation this pure greed and them want to push prices as far they can before no buys anything even then I will to bet they could make certain amount cards year price a rates that only rich could touch and they still sell and still make that money then when whole pc gaming sector crash cause of be like we dont know what happen [/SPOILER] Price and TDP are reason why have no bought new card yet. my next pc if and when i buy will have new psu so one i have no is with me till i dies or i replace it
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Newegg/Amazon has ATX 3.0 power supplies in stock.If anyone wants to try and burn the 12+4
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for each 150W steps, ad a 8 pin adappter. problem fixed. Just because a connector can carry up to 600W doesn't mean that it will deliver by magic. If the GPU takes 450W at max, 3 x 8 pins are perfectly fine.
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Alessio1989:

for each 150W steps, ad a 8 pin adappter. problem fixed. Just because a connector can carry up to 600W doesn't mean that it will deliver by magic. If the GPU takes 450W at max, 3 x 8 pins are perfectly fine.
The terminals are smaller than the regular 6 and 8 pins, and have to deliver all of it through 12 pins instead of 24. It's a really stupid idea. They should have atleast considered combining 2x regular 6 pin and keep that size, instead of scaling it down.
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bad plastic can burn even on an old 4-pin molex power connector... We can only avoid to use an insufficient number of 8pins connectors and not spare on cheap adaptors just to save 2 bucks. Of course, getting the size of the 4000 series, sparing some volume for the 12vhpwr is just stupid. An alternative could be buying new cable outputs if you have a modular PSU like those sells Corsair: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284 Usually corsair PS deliver 2*8 pins for each output, 2x output means 4*8 pins, aka 600W
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Alessio1989:

bad plastic can burn even on an old 4-pin molex power connector... We can only avoid to use an insufficient number of 8pins connectors and not spare on cheap adaptors just to save 2 bucks. Of course, getting the size of the 4000 series, sparing some volume for the 12vhpwr is just stupid. An alternative could be buying new cable outputs if you have a modular PSU like those sells Corsair: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284 Usually corsair PS deliver 2*8 pins for each output, 2x output means 4*8 pins, aka 600W
It's not caused by bad plastic, it's the bending of the pins inside causing a bad connection and increasing resistance. The wires are fine as well, it's all because of the smaller terminals not being able to handle the load once bend.
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if banding the cable results on bending pins, than the connector is crap. Basically like is molex 4pn..
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Alessio1989:

if banding the cable results on bending pins, than the connector is crap. Basically like is molex 4pn..
The regular PCI-E connectors suffer from the same, but they're overbuilt and can handle the extra resistance, as a single 8-Pin is rated for over 300 Watts.
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There's a couple of companies starting to ship proper cables for older PSUs out from China. Mine is in the post for the 1000W ROG Strix non Thor PSU.
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Alessio1989:

if banding the cable results on bending pins, than the connector is crap. Basically like is molex 4pn..
How are supposed to use cables on closed cases without bending them?!
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bemaniac:

There's a couple of companies starting to ship proper cables for older PSUs out from China. Mine is in the post for the 1000W ROG Strix non Thor PSU.
Not going to make a difference as the cable isn't the problem. The connector is the problem and that thing is universal for everyone who's making cables for 12VHPWR. There are two solutions right now: - 90 Degree Connector on the cable. - Mould the terminators with the connector. And both of them arn't even 100% guaranteed to be safe, as you can't see inside the connector if the pins are all making proper contact.
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H83:

How are supposed to use cables on closed cases without bending them?!
ask to nvidia.
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H83:

How are supposed to use cables on closed cases without bending them?!
Dont close your case, dont bend the cables, dont use vertical gpu mounts...lol wtf nvidia
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New bundle has been announced from NVidia, with every RTX 4000 card.
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Undying:

Dont close your case, dont bend the cables, dont use vertical gpu mounts...lol wtf nvidia
Why is that with the GPU mounts? Because you'd still have to bend the cable 90° after all, or did I miss anything in particular?
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There cannot be many, if any 4090 owners who have 3.5cm of space between the end of the connector and the case. I'm close with my 7000D but the cable still doesn't come out straight from the connector. I expect most 4090 users have a good bend close to the connector and Nvidia never said that would be a problem.
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fantaskarsef:

Why is that with the GPU mounts? Because you'd still have to bend the cable 90° after all, or did I miss anything in particular?
That is how its started. Apparently that is a very bad bend but what can you do unless you can avoid gravity. [spoiler]https://abload.de/img/untitledpsivf.png[/spoiler]