Nvidia talks Pascal 16GB Memory at 1TB/S bandwidth
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fantaskarsef
Very much looking forward to Volta, both for architectural changes and performance gains.
Tuoni
So...?
There's always something to look forward to. Volta will be old news by the time it is available and people have started looking forward to the next big thing.
Greenfeuer
Any confirmation on release date yet?
BD2015
Already looking for Volta? I'd say Pascal looks promising enough and as a 4k gamer - it looks like a must-have to me.
kinggavin
16 gigs smaller card and less power usage with more performance very nice but how much will it cost and will game developers use the power because the consoles now are struggle to do 1080p and 30 fps in new titles , with pascal the gap will be massive if they dont bring out a ps5 and xbox two
Sukovsky
Let's hope AMD brings some more competition to the table. Otherwise we'll have to shell out 1200+ bucks again for the new Titan.
nexxusting
Pascal should allow 4K gaming with 1 GPU.
It has to or it wont sell like the 980/980ti's did.
fantaskarsef
Yes already looking for Volta, since I don't see too much sense in upgrading from Maxwell to Pascal. Sadly, I wouldn't say you'll be fine with everything just buy getting yourself a single 'big' Pascal at 4K... that's why I hope Volta will bring constant 60fps to 4K with everything looking nicely.
On the other hand, I am mostly hoping for architectural changes or advances, respectively in the matter of how the work queues are treated, and how the driver will work with dx12 (and I expect Pascal to still show some weaknesses at first).
Ryu5uzaku
For sure Big Pascal will play stuff at 4K @ 60fps just like 980 ti does play some now. Volta will do the same but way more consistently.
Next year should be interesting with Pascal and new AMD gpus + Zen.
DeskStar
Darkest
You're absolutely right. Why should people on an enthusiast forum for hardware get excited over new hardware?
schmidtbag
I personally won't be considering any new hardware of any kind until nvidia and/or AMD figure out a better way to handle 4k screens. You can keep throwing more memory (and memory bandwidth) and tighter transistor designs at these GPUs but it doesn't seem to be helping enough. 4k is hurting performance on today's hardware the same way AA did 10 years ago. Not that AA's performance hit was ever properly addressed either...
In the meantime, I'm fine with 1080p.
I hope you're trolling...
southamptonfc
Maxwell and Fury are both built on the same transistor size as the previous generation and both significantly improve performance at 4K over the previous generation.
If you increase the number of pixels by 4, you need 4X the GPU power to hit the same FPS.
The same thing was the case with 1080p and will be the same again with 8K. It just takes time for GPU power to catch up. I'm with you, I'm also sticking with 1080p for the time being. I value framerate over anything else.
TheDeeGee
I'm ready!
Can't wait to see my performance Sky Rocket with Pascal.
schmidtbag
I agree, but they still fall short. I don't remember hardware struggling as much when 1080p started to get popular. The thing is, we're starting to reach the limits of Moore's Law. Back when 1080p went mainstream, we had a long way to go in terms of electrical refinement and just overall architectural design. It's going to be hard to figure out how to fine-tune something that's already near its limits. Companies can keep adding more cores or frequency but efficiency is going to be an issue.
rm082e
According to the Steam Hardware Survey for October 2015, less than one tenth of one percent of users are running 4K monitors:
There are 18 times as many people running QHD displays as there are people running 4K. This idea that 4k is relevant to the actual market, rather than just the marketing, is a myth.
The 900 series has sold well for Nvidia because it's a good product. They went up in VRAM which everyone wants more of, the cards run quiet and cool, they get great fps-per-dollar, the power consumption is a bonus, and there's very little competition from AMD. If they just improve performance and VRAM again, then Pascal will sell well regardless of 4K performance. Obviously 4K will be better than Maxwell, but how much better is all but irrelevant to their sales figures.
southamptonfc
Going to 1080p from 1280x1024 or 1024x768 is only a 1.6 or 2.6 increase in pixels. The jump to 4K is BIG!
They keep saying we're reaching the limit of Moore's law and yet it is still being hit every year and if it hasn't been hit in the desktop space, it's only because Nvidia and Intel are dripfeeding technology due to lack of competition.
Darkest
I've always said the push for 4K over the years was ridiculous, we have hardware companies advertising it as a selling point despite no single GPU being able to run it well. Hell, even high end multi-gpu setups struggle. The next logical step has always been 1440p, it's the sweet spot for single GPU setups. The current trend in gaming related monitor releases proves this. We'll see a majority shift to that resolution long before 4K becomes the norm.
People keep citing high end GPU's making 4K the next standard, but they totally forget that only a tiny percentage of people run those GPU's. The majority are running low to mid range solutions, in the next few generations GPU's in that segment will finally be capable of 1440p over the currently popular 1080p. They wont be remotely close to running well at 4k.
Barry J
I am looking at Volta as possible next upgrade I will skip Pascal
schmidtbag
That may be so, but the hardware performance has dramatically increased too. IGPs in modern PCs and tablets (if you include Tegra) can outperform some of the best GPUs back when 1080p went mainstream.
Reaching the limit doesn't mean we have reached the limit. There is obviously room for improvement but not much. Intel may be dripfeeding their CPUs, but not their GPUs. Also, nvidia is still actively working toward improving their hardware. AMD is plenty competitive against Nvidia - the only thing nvidia has leverage with are the 750Ti and 980Ti, and the 980Ti is too expensive for most people.
