NVIDIA To hold Special Event September 1st for Ampere announcements (updated)

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I think right now all we know is that Ampere will have much better RTX performance and that's it. i'm wanting a 3080 that uses less than 200w and has about 40% improvement over 2080.
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Denial:

No you don't
No? What is it then?
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sozuoka:

I'm bafffled that there are still people thinking this way. No, shrinking node does not work magically like that. And yes, 30% increase over 2080Ti is still good. Not exceptional, but good, I don't see why we would complain about that.
You are baffled? Maybe you have just been fooled my marketing by manufacturers then... most of the performance increase from each generation of GPU to the next follows the foundries prediction of silicon performance increase from one node to the next better node... Now obviously if they double of triple core components that makes an end difference. Comparing similar silicon family/design performance improvement only. 30% is not bad but its not game changing either is it according to their marketing. Certainly not worth it if the prices remain the same or worse, get higher.
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Why do people compare non-Ti parts with Ti-parts and then act baffled that the performance increase isn't sky high? How about you compare the RTX 3080 Ti with the RTX 2080 Ti? Should be quiet impressive. And if you don't think so, you're just a spoiled nag.
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Brb, selling kidney to get nvidia mid-range card.
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geogan:

No? What is it then?
What is what? They simply don't get 30% performance. They can obviously expand the chip with more cores and get 30% performance, but that's not free.. or they can maybe clock it higher and get 30% performance in the same power envelope, but in most cases the node isn't limiting the switching performance. Same core count, same clock, same architecture, same chip - shrinking it down does not get them performance.
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I wonder if the obvious comparisons to the GeForce256 are just a marketing gimmick (hint: they probably are).
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the marketing team really knows how to wet its fanboys pants. I cant even laugh as hard as i should be laughing.
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geogan:

3080 or 3080Ti ? If it is only 20-30% over 2080Ti that is crap. That is basically them doing nothing except putting the same 2080Ti die on to the 7/8nm process and getting that performance increase for free. ie. when you put same chip from current 2080Ti node to 7nm node you get 20-30% without doing anything else.
I'm talking about 3080. A 20-30% for a 3080 is a solid gain. This was the sort of performance jump from Maxwell to Pascal (980ti to 1080). The 1080ti was about an 80% jump over the 980ti. Since the 3080 is a GA102 part (same as 3080ti), its a very reasonable expectation to be 20-30% over 2080ti. I expect 3080ti to be roughly 50% over 2080ti. Just my personal opinion.
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"Wccftech also speculates that the countdown mention of 21 years might be related to the original GeForce 256 GPU. It’s been almost 21 years since the GeForce 256 launched back in 1999, and Wccftech notes that if you multiply 256 by 21 you get 5,376, which is a core count that was leaked recently."
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PrMinisterGR:

I wonder if the obvious comparisons to the GeForce256 are just a marketing gimmick (hint: they probably are).
It might imply a rich new feature set and matching performance for RTX Ampere as happened with the GeForce 256. https://www.anandtech.com/show/391
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Hopefully nobody here buys these cards day one. At a minimum wait until AMD releases a couple months later so you can at least get a discount on these cards.
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Good news, my bank just called saying they have a special credit prepared in case i want a new GPU from Nvidia, and i can pay it in 10 years! Looks like i may be able to afford a new GPU after all...:p
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geogan:

No? What is it then?
they would at least have to raise gpu frequency for 30%.
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The world wants to know will they have a blackjack edition?
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JamesSneed:

Hopefully nobody here buys these cards day one. At a minimum wait until AMD releases a couple months later so you can at least get a discount on these cards.
If im buying im buying nvidia, There are things I know i can do with NV's drivers that do not exist and never have with AMD's.
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Im down for an early release, gonna hit the 3080ti right on release from a decent manfacturer like asus unless it's over 2grand in price.
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I'm waiting for 3070, gonna pick up decent priced 2060 in a few days to see me through, got too many games i want to be playing right now.
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Astyanax:

If im buying im buying nvidia, There are things I know i can do with NV's drivers that do not exist and never have with AMD's.
Please tell? I want to judge you on your decision 😀 Unless you have found a way to unlock more than 15% more performance by just driver code tweaking, I too agree that all should wait to see what AMD has to offer first. For the average buyer, both sides will have the features that bring graphics into another generation, such as VRR and Ray-Tracing. Especially in this current economic hardship, most may go AMD. With RDNA's release, it was a similar effect as to what Ryzen had on the CPU industry and as far as i know, RDNA didn't rely on Jim Keller's work. Nvidia doesn't have its shortcomings like Intel had at the time, so i assume it will be much tougher competition but for price/performance/efficiency ratio, we may be looking at another Radeon HD 7000 series kind of upset.
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Mda400:

Please tell? I want to judge you on your decision 😀
Hybrid MSAA+SSAA antialiasing modes (8xSQ, 12xS, 16xS, 32xS) AF overrides for every api (AMD only supports DX9) Variable refresh rates with adaptive overdrive (no freesync doesn't) Profile settings (and context menu) to override the GPU an OpenGL or Vulkan application uses (important for vulkan since it can invoke the wrong gpu even on a single display system) MFAA (on lighter games where it doesn't matter if DCL's are disabled.... oh thats another thing AMD doesn't do, DCL's) A decent OpenGL icd. Drivers that aren't utterly broken for 6 months forcing me to frequently restart to recover the machine (snark) Feature set will never be outdone by fps numbers for me, i don't care if one is faster than the other, i'll buy the nvidia offering that suits me.