NVIDIA RTX 40 Series Might Get 800 Watts TBP

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Nvidia totally playing into the energy ''scarcity''.
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I have an hard time believing Nvidia would go so far but iยดm already preparing myself in case this becomes real...
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It is always interesting to see big companies entering new markets. I never expected nVidia to enter the kitchen appliance market with this smart mini-oven that can also render graphics Very interesting concept - will keep an eye on this.
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0blivious:

These sound quite capable but I'll wait for the refresh with (hopefully) improved power draw across the series. This inefficiency (or lack of nvidia giving a crap) is a bit absurd. I have space heaters that don't work as well as modern gaming PCs to heat a room.
The current generation of Nvidia and AMD GPUs are the most efficient GPUs that have ever been produced. As for using them as heaters, both your space heaters and GPUs are the same, 100% efficient.
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southamptonfc:

The current generation of Nvidia and AMD GPUs are the most efficient GPUs that have ever been produced. As for using them as heaters, both your space heaters and GPUs are the same, 100% efficient.
Yes 3090ti @ 300w beats every other gpu in effency ๐Ÿ™‚ 3090ti @600w is another story but performance is still very good ๐Ÿ™‚
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TheDeeGee:

I'll simply unvolt the crap out of the RTX 4060 if it has a TDP of 320 Watts, i don't care if that reduces it's perfomance. My limit is around 220 watts for noise and heat.
Radeon Fury under-powered to -50% runs at 90% performance while only comsuming ~200W max... Long gone are the days when CPUs and GPUs had reasonable TDPs and some OCing headroom :'(
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BLEH!:

Radeon Fury under-powered to -50% runs at 90% performance while only comsuming ~200W max... Long gone are the days when CPUs and GPUs had reasonable TDPs and some OCing headroom :'(
Meanwhile 980Ti can use 400W and run at 135% performance compare to stock ๐Ÿ˜€
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What is it for RTX 3090 as reference ?
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Horus-Anhur:

Bloody hell, we're going to need a power phase in our houses, just for the PC.
I already have.
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XenthorX:

What is it for RTX 3090 as reference ?
The power phase, or the power that can be delievered through the pcie connectors? The powerphase on the founders 3090 is actually the strongest of all the 3090's - nearly 1000 watts. Aka it wont be any different with this 4000 series gpu - but nice title for clicks.
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As someone else said before , this is getting way out of hand. I wish nvidia and amd both would lower the power consumption on their gpus by a lot as energy prices have gone way , waaay up from let's say 2 years ago plus this is not helping the global warming crysis. I will skip this generation completely and wait to see if nvidia and amd gets back to it's senses , reality check. I cannot wait for AMD Phoenix APUs rdna2 + ddr5 will make this apu 1080p 60fps high settings gaming possible just sipping power from the integrated graphics , once we get there 1080p 60 fps high settings on triple A new games i will dump my high end gpu + cpu. Bye bye dedicated high end gpu's hopefully ๐Ÿ™‚
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Undying:

Then wait for the 4050. ๐Ÿ˜› I have a 250w gpu now and the noise and heat is insane when there is 30+ ambient temperature. I can only imagine 350-450w gpus like a heater being turned on in the summer.
+1 maxing out at 220w but still putting a 72fps frame cap on most of my games in summer just to stave off the heat, though come winter a 400w gpu could mean i barely need to use the heating ๐Ÿ˜› though summer is the time where i dig out old games that barely load up the cpu and gpu....probably because those are the only ones i can play for HOURS where a modern game 1h and then my loop is heated and it really starts to dump it's heat in to my room >.>
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Babel-17:

Finally getting the Bitchin Fast kind of card gamers have waited decades for! Lol, this could be the generation of video cards that trigger a knee jerk reaction from a poorly informed politician. I say, embrace that. Maybe even have the card talk to you while your PC idles. "It's time to frag!", and when you're gaming, "No mercy!", "Finish him!, "Valhalla!". Put streamers on the back where the air vents so it looks like the exhaust from a rocket when you're stressing the card. ๐Ÿ˜Ž [youtube=ZmCEXbspWuI]
btw i love Samuel R. Delaney
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i expected something like this from Nvidia (tho' not as bad) and i expected to see worse mining now six months ago. my how things change fast. now, with crypto cratering we might just live to see actual cards at launch for gamers. because of crypto i held off Ampere and almost held off RDNA 2, but i was able to score a liquid devil 6900xt below MSRP in the last few months. so i'm going to let all of you guinea pig Lovelace to see how the 70/80 play with tweaking because the (G-Sync) system i have the 2070 is the weakest link in all of my 'puters.
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I wonder where AMD's RDNA3 cards will land in comparison. I have had SLI and in the Texas summer heat and man I would be sweating during gaming. I will not be going over 250w again. Nope. My next GPU will likely be picked on what gives me the best performance under 250 watts. I actually have 3080 level money set aside and decided to stop trying to get one a few months ago. So money wont be an issue but no thanks on the heat.
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And how can you cool a 450-800w chip normally with traditional cooling, really cruious about next gen design, because this kind of power output is pure bs
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Once upon a time i used to put ยฃ50 a month to my electric, that now is ยฃ100 so it's doubled in the last 6 months. On avg i game about 3 hours a day where my 3090 and system uses about 600w. With this a 4090 would likely be around 800w in total so not a huge increase for me but still getting stupid high energy useage.
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chispy:

As someone else said before , this is getting way out of hand. I wish nvidia and amd both would lower the power consumption on their gpus by a lot as energy prices have gone way , waaay up from let's say 2 years ago plus this is not helping the global warming crysis. I will skip this generation completely and wait to see if nvidia and amd gets back to it's senses , reality check. I cannot wait for AMD Phoenix APUs rdna2 + ddr5 will make this apu 1080p 60fps high settings gaming possible just sipping power from the integrated graphics , once we get there 1080p 60 fps high settings on triple A new games i will dump my high end gpu + cpu. Bye bye dedicated high end gpu's hopefully ๐Ÿ™‚
If they putn more than 512 GPU cores on it, maybe...
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BLEH!:

If they putn more than 512 GPU cores on it, maybe...
No need for that many i believe , the magic will happen with ddr5 . On my 5700G apu with 32gb of 3900Mhz ram and tweaked timmings + overclocked igpu on this tiny htpc box i have ASRock deskmini x300 SFF i can play a lot of games at 1080p with a mix of medium and low settings flawlessly for hours mostly older but good games. Mainly on latest triple A tittles is where i have to lower the resolution to 720p to maintain 60fps. Let's hope AMD Phoenix APU get us there my friend ๐Ÿ™‚ , at least that's my wishful thinking , nothing better than have a tiny box smaller than a power supply unit been able to play games on it while sipping tiny ammounts of power. That's where i'm heading next SFF and Mini ITX builts , i'm done with monstrous eATX Full Tower cases and expensive water cooling.
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We can replace our electric grills and tea kettle with this one! That is a triple win! Anybody who is Putin's BFF will surely get one... others, not so lucky... /s
BLEH!:

If they "putn" more than 512 GPU cores on it, maybe...
I see what you did there, Comrade! ๐Ÿ˜€