Nvidia responds to AMD FreeSync
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H83
I like Nvidia´s GPUs but their stupid attitudes are really hard to ignore. Saying that they won´t share G-sync with AMD no matter what and that AMD should develop their own solution like that it´s really being an huge ass!!!
This way G-syng is gonna flop like Physix and the biggest loser is going to be Nvidia because someone will release a non proprietary solution that is gonna work for everyone...
Some guys just don´t learn...
sykozis
Lane
Its funny because, on the Asus who support G-sync... g-sync take place in the scaler ( in reality it replace it ).
Anandtech G-sync review. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7582/nvidia-gsync-review
Then:
Definitevely some explanations are wrong somewhere.
In reality the first patent have been applied by ATI technologies in 2002, in 2006, AMD have transfer the licences under his name. ( as they have buy ATI at this time )
Keesberenburg
nhlkoho
H83
Denial
AcidSnow
Proprietary G-Sync is really disappointing, but obviously expected.
However, I can't help but feel somewhat upset, because it's like inventing "fire" as a cave man and not helping the entire human race by saying "here, I realize you're out in the cold, take this and live a better life."
Screen tearing is a horrible issue which requires V-Sync in all non-CRT monitors... And variable-FPS is a brilliant idea that would benefit basically every gamer on the planet.
It's no wonder why NVIDA is keeping it as a proprietary tech, it's just that powerful :\
oOEvil1Oo
I am glad there is all the advancements we have in technology, for us to play games on! Too bad the damn game developers can't figure out how to release working titles for us to use the modern marvels!!
theimported1
I always find it kind of funny when people make the argument/complaint that Nvidia does not make this open source/free.
They spent time and money developing this, what reason would they have to give this away?
It does not make any sense what so ever.
I don't think AMD is giving everyone the whole picture on "free sync" either. It seems to be an attention grabber and thats it for right now. Hopefully we will see their versioiin/implementation of the tech soon, as that would drive prices down.
Also as another poster mentioned, I am sure Samsung etc... could implement a similar technology that would not be hardware locked--maybe monitor locked.
I think the eventual conclusion to this will be a free implementation/universal standard.
scipio
Until the monitor industry implements display port 1.3 , it's a moot point, Nvidia is selling hardware and that costs money to develop and market.
mcarr6
Aura89
Seref
chanw4
Cyberdyne
Meh, I believe him. Makes sense, AMD themselves said something like they have been asked for awhile to make tech like this for laptops to solve some power issues being the main focus of freesync. Maybe dp 1.3 will add that tech to desktop and maybe it wont, that's on AMD. Point is NVidia has their own tech coming out.
And I don't subscribe to the whining about how it's just another NVidia exclusive thing. I understand the criticisms against physx mostly because it makes adoption of physx frustrating because it obviously needs support from the maker of whatever game. But Gsync is not dependent on that, it should work with everything.
MaskedMuchaco
No need to wait for DisplayPort 1.3. all you need is a monitor that supports Direct drive
Direct Drive has been a VESA standard since 2009 and eliminates the need for scaler hardware in the monitor and lets the GPU control the panel directly. Dell were selling a direct drive monitor a few years ago (Dell E1909WDD) but I have no idea if any regular monitors support it. I expect it's used widely in laptops and is possibly why AMD chose laptops for their demonstration.
Nvidia Obviously know about this so G-Sync must be doing something more than just allowing direct control of the panel for the price they charge for it. Possibly allowing better 2 way communication and extra buffering or something I understand equally as little about as directly controlling LCD panels.
I could be way off the mark but it seems to make sense.
eclap
This sounds like something that could work on Koreans. No scaler, no osd, direct gpu to panel. We'll see.
yasamoka
Note that the Koreans still have a DVI to quad LVDS display controller in-between. I would not bet on current desktop monitors supporting this without some kind official firmware updates (not gonna happen) or community-driven firmware hacking. The panels also have to be ready to hold a frame for longer than when they're at their highest refresh rate, but that doesn't seem like an issue to me for 120Hz monitors as you can run those at 60Hz already. The trouble might be in the current 60Hz (IPS?) displays.
Underclock your monitor and see how it behaves.
VENGEANCE
And isnt thunderbolt from intel faster
I have a gtx680 on 3 x 24 inch displays and i never have screen tearing with v-sync off all the time... and i get some games over 100fps...dont see the need for this crap
v-sync helps only with sli as i have done it before
i guess someone along the line will hack it and create some form of software that could duplicate g-sync
50/50 my vote