NVIDIA Might Cancel GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3070 16GB

#5845354

Dragam1337

2020-10-22 08:43

I reckon the real reason is that they will be doing the 3070s and 3080s on TSMC 7nm next year.

#5845359

mentor07825

2020-10-22 08:49

This launch can be redubbed as Ampwhere because I have no idea where these cards can be found.

#5845364

beedoo

2020-10-22 09:04

Don't think I've ever felt the 'vibe' from such a poor launch like this before. I mean, I've bought a lot of different high-end video cards over the years and read a lot of internet articles, but you can really feel the weight of it this time...

#5845366

moo100times

2020-10-22 09:16

I wonder if this simply is down to the 8nm node process. I can only assume 1 of 2 things - either that the professional industry is taking every available ampere gpu (though these are supposedly available to purchasers from mid-Dec?), or that the node process is continuing to generate poor yields

#5845368

Undying

2020-10-22 09:21

This means super cards are far away and they have to fight 16gb amd cards with their 10 and 8gb non excisting cards, not good.

#5845370

Dragam1337

2020-10-22 09:26

Kosmoz:

If they do that one a completely different node with a different Fab Company they will need to do the 4000 series. It's not possible from many POVs (legally, design, etc) to do that what you (and a few others) are saying/thinking. I think they are cancelling these cards and pushing the 4000 series sooner than they wanted, because Ampere is another underwhelming generation in lots of ways and AMD is bringing the head this time around. nvidia backed themselves into another corner and now they will want the next gen out sooner. Basically this is anther flop-ish generation, like Turing, but for slightly different reasons.

Lol, not possible legally and design wise? They have done it several times in the past, for instance with the 200 series, where the 280 was based on 65 nm, and the 285 was based on 55 nm.

#5845380

Caesar

2020-10-22 09:42

Yeah....thinking the same. Revamping might be a good idea.... But by that time AMD 6000 Series will be the new STAR*

#5845381

kapu

2020-10-22 09:43

Soo much for waiting for 20gb model , hahahaha . Can't stop laughing at folks that wanted to wait for 20gb model , nice slap in the face from nvidia 😀

#5845385

Flinch

2020-10-22 10:05

They probably believe that their current offerings will be good enough to get urgent buyers over AMD. If they had released these higher capacity models this year they would have seriously annoyed the early adopters. So they push the release of these out and most likely increase the core specs alongside VRAM to cover AMD's response. They can also tailor the specs to hit harder in the $250-450 range if AMD compete better here.

#5845387

Kaarme

2020-10-22 10:07

kapu:

Soo much for waiting for 20gb model , hahahaha . Can't stop laughing at folks that wanted to wait for 20gb model , nice slap in the face from nvidia 😀

Does it matter? It's not like they could have bought the regular models with less memory either. There are none around to buy, after all.

#5845392

rdmetz

2020-10-22 10:26

Kaarme:

Does it matter? It's not like they could have bought the regular models with less memory either. There are none around to buy, after all.

All I here is impossible to buy doesn't exist etc etc and yet since launch day (which I got 1) ive so far been able to secure 8 different cards from a mix of 3080s and 3090s. Heck I missed my chance to buy a evga 3080 FTW3 ultra through the queue on top of that. I did all that with no use of bots or any kind of scalping tools. Just setting up in stock notifications and buying them with accounts all ready to speed through checkout process. I hear all this complaining and yet me and all my friends and family who wanted one have one. I know it's tough but if you actually prepare and do your part it's not impossible (obviously). I think many are just lazy and want a reason to cry about it and try and talk up radeon like they will do any better.

#5845395

mentor07825

2020-10-22 10:29

rdmetz:

All I here is impossible to buy doesn't exist etc etc and yet since launch day (which I got 1) ive so far been able to secure 8 different cards from a mix of 3080s and 3090s. Heck I missed my chance to buy a evga 3080 FTW3 ultra through the queue on top of that. I did all that with no use of bots or any kind of scalping tools. Just setting up in stock notifications and buying them with accounts all ready to speed through checkout process. I hear all this complaining and yet me and all my friends and family who wanted one have one. I know it's tough but if you actually prepare and do your part it's not impossible (obviously). I think many are just lazy and want a reason to cry about it and try and talk up radeon like they will do any better.

And where have you been buying from, if you don't mind my asking? I'm <100 in the queue for a 3080 ASUS Strix OC model for just over a month now, since the day of release, and I only moved by twenty placements in overclockers.co.uk Like, I can cancel my order and get my money back in less than a week if it's possible to procure a model elsehwere.

#5845397

barbacot

2020-10-22 10:31

...NVIDIA can't produce enough 3080 cards even now

Enough should be replaced by ANY... [youtube=5xAaQzaMsug] Yeah, right! Keep those pascal and turing cards like there's no tomorrow - don't listen to the leather jacket man!

#5845405

ACEB

2020-10-22 10:54

You can't attach 20GB to paper anyway

#5845409

k3vst3r

2020-10-22 10:57

Jen probably seen Big Navi numbers an decided not go ahead with more vram, cause can't increase clocks due to limitations of 8nm Samsung process. Launching new cards with more vram after Big Navi which are slower hurts NV PR, they rather cancel now than admit defeat.

#5845411

Kaarme

2020-10-22 11:00

rdmetz:

All I here is impossible to buy doesn't exist etc etc and yet since launch day (which I got 1) ive so far been able to secure 8 different cards from a mix of 3080s and 3090s.

And thanks to that, 7 other people are still waiting. There's far more demand than supply. Wasn't it only something like 5 or 7% of the demand that Nvidia is able to fulfill? So, no matter how much you say it's possible and how you have got eight cards, more than 9 out 10 people who would like to get their card now are kept waiting for an unknown amount of time. It's like they are ordering a bloody tractor custom made for every single buyer, not a video card, which is 100% standard for the model (except for OC potential variation) and sold as is. Well, it's not like I'd be complaining since I'm in absolutely no hurry, especially since AMD has yet to show its hand. By the looks of it, I might not buy the card before 2021 if it continues like this.

#5845412

Jagman

2020-10-22 11:04

mentor07825:

This launch can be redubbed as Ampwhere because I have no idea where these cards can be found.

Ampwhere..... That could catch on 😀

#5845422

Turanis

2020-10-22 11:53

Dragam1337:

I reckon the real reason is that they will be doing the 3070s and 3080s on TSMC 7nm next year.

Bingo.NVidia need to revamp the architecture for 7nm process. 🙂 TSMC need to work 24/7(if they not doing it),you know like steel forgery,because too many contracts and too many money will be lost if they not doing it.

#5845423

Dragam1337

2020-10-22 11:59

rdmetz:

All I here is impossible to buy doesn't exist etc etc and yet since launch day (which I got 1) ive so far been able to secure 8 different cards from a mix of 3080s and 3090s. Heck I missed my chance to buy a evga 3080 FTW3 ultra through the queue on top of that. I did all that with no use of bots or any kind of scalping tools. Just setting up in stock notifications and buying them with accounts all ready to speed through checkout process. I hear all this complaining and yet me and all my friends and family who wanted one have one. I know it's tough but if you actually prepare and do your part it's not impossible (obviously). I think many are just lazy and want a reason to cry about it and try and talk up radeon like they will do any better.

Im guessing you resold the 7 surplus cards you got for a profit, like the nice guy you are... I ordered on launch day from 2 different retailers, and im still waiting at least another month before receiving either.

#5845434

entr0cks

2020-10-22 12:34

Think they haven't been a thing anyway, possibly just placeholder names for manufacturers. They have Quadro and 3090 for people who actually need VRAM.