NVIDIA Hunts Samsung and Qualcomm for infringing GPU patents

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Typical selfish, monopolistic behavior from Nvidia. Making Android and Linus proud huh?
Wouldn't you do the same thing if someone used your patented technology without your consent? I for one, am generally against such patents. But on the other hand, at least it's not as stupid as apple's phone shape patent lol. Oh, and I don't agree with your 'monopolistic' part. If nvidia would be true scumbags (not saying they're not scumbags in some regards), they would be competing price-wise, trying to get amd out of business. Same story with intel. I don't even want to think what would happen if intel high end cpus were actually priced competitively.
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Nvidia the new Apple?
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Nvidia the new Apple?
Because there aren't 10,000 other companies that have done this? Is every company the new Apple?
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At least NVidia isn't trying to get products banned from market like Apple does. If NVidia's claim is in fact true, then they deserve to be reasonably compensated. I do wish NVidia luck against Samsung. They're the most consumer unfriendly company I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
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Normally I'd be rolling my eyes at this, but nobody pisses off nvidia to this level. Obviously plenty of companies do and say things that nvidia doesn't like, but how often does nvidia actually take action against their problems? In a way, I feel bad for Samsung (since it seems they're being sued left and right) but honestly, they have the money and marketshare to do great things and instead they take the safe route. Maybe if they used their power to develop their own things before companies Apple or nvidia, they wouldn't be in this mess. Curvy screens isn't good enough.
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Actually this patent infringment are about all GPU's used on ARM chips. They only sue Qualcom for the Adreno and Samsung because they product device with all type of GPU's. It concern : Qualcom Adreno, PowerVR, ARM Mali, Imagination GPU's Everyone are sued. But they only attack directly Samsung by asking the court to ban the Note4 and Edge to be sold. I dont think the point is to really ban the Samsung product to be sold on USA; but basically to force the 4 GPU's brands to pay Nvidia licence fees. Or even more, create a case, where it is the brands who use thoses product who will pay licence fee to Nvidia. Samsung is here, just because it is the leader on ARM based device market, Qualcom, because it is the leader on ARM chips production. The question is more, Samsung dont do thoses architecture, he buy the gpu's to Qualcom and other brands. Anyway, this concern absolutely all brand of smartphones, tablet using ARM chips.. as it cover absolutely everyone who use thoses GPU's.. including Apple, HTC, LG etc. It was certainly more easy to attack Samsung first, instead of Apple on USA. ( and like i said, this is the leader on the market )
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The question is more, Samsung dont do thoses architecture, he buy the gpu's to Qualcom and other brands.
From the article... "The company seems to be targeting devices based on Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4, 400, 600, 800, 801 and 805 as well as some based on Samsung's Exynos." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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From the article... "The company seems to be targeting devices based on Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4, 400, 600, 800, 801 and 805 as well as some based on Samsung's Exynos." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
Samsung use ARM Mali GPU's on Exynos. Samsung dont produce any gpu on his own, he use Adreno on their Qualcom chips, Mali on the Exynos and have use PowerVR and imagination on some selected or old producted by the past. This is not the ARM Soc who are targeted, but the gpu used on the SOC's. For the moment i wait to see what patent is involved on it anyway.
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Samsung use ARM Mali GPU's on Exynos. Samsung dont produce any gpu on his own, he use Adreno on their Qualcom chips, Mali on the Exynos and have use PowerVR and imagination some selected or old product.
Regardless of their packaging simply being other products in a package, the Exynos is still Samsungs product.
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Regardless of their packaging simply being other products in a package, the Exynos is still Samsungs product.
Samsung buy the GPU's, they dont create them. And basically when you buy a Qualcomm Snapdragon, you buy too the package with the Adreno. Same for the ARM Mali. When i say buy, as for ARM, you pay a licence for use their gpu's in your SOC. (which in the case of Qualcom is a bit difference as you buy the complete package, with LTE and all other stuffs. ) . You pay the architecture, you pay the technology, and you pay the right to use them. Ofc Samsung produce them, Samsung is producting a lot of SOC in their fundry for other brands too ( including Apple ( now in TSMC ). And the problem will be the same for Apple, LG, HTC and other who use thoses gpu's. ( whatever they make product their SOC in TSMC or in Samsung fundry ). Again, i want to see what patents are involved, i have not find them so far.. But some article on known site treating of patent, are clear on exactly what is attacked. I dont say Nvidia is wrong or not, but that it touch every smartphone makers ( as it concern all gpu's brand used on ARM based SOC ). Specially Apple too ofc. ( I understand what you mean by product them, Qualcomm, Apple, Samsung, and some other include the GPU's in their SOC and product them. Some buy the complete SOC to Qualcom. )
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these companies both have enuff money they shouldnt care about something like this
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Typical selfish, monopolistic behavior from Nvidia. Making Android and Linus proud huh?
Were it not for the patent system to protect innovations that companies spent tons of their own money to create, the tech-boom would have never happened. Companies spend millions of dollars developing stuff like this and you just think they should give it away for free? or should it be owned by the state and not the individual? Sounds like you're a little too fond the little red book.
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Typical selfish, monopolistic behavior from Nvidia. Making Android and Linus proud huh?
Qualcomm gets a piece on every modem built, but refuses to honor other's IP. Nvidia tried negotiating with them, they refused. Now they are getting sued. Cry me a river. You and Linus(WTF???) both
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Qualcomm gets a piece on every modem built, but refuses to honor other's IP. Nvidia tried negotiating with them, they refused. Now they are getting sued. Cry me a river. You and Linus(WTF???) both
Well actually when you look the patent involved, outside their great titles.. I think Nvidia have a lot of humor, and like to joke... Some patent only describe how Nvidia have use ATI ( powerVR developpement implementation ) and other research at work on their GPU.. There's some question left, have they then completely copy the way have Nvidia implement this technology on their gpu even if at the base, their was technology developped a long time ago ( starting by the unified shaders ), or does Nvidia think speaking about "unified shaders "on mobile GPU is enough. Its funny, because i dont see Nvidia as a patent troll, I dont remember have see them do this before. So first i will have give them the benefit of the doubt. But after read a bit about thoses patents... I dont say im against it, but i got mixed feeling.. On the seven patents involved, i see maybe one who can be in the case, and again it is really hard to be applied here. Because it is not specifically something developped by Nvidia, but by other ( including the company involved in the case ( PowerVR and imagination ), but how Nvidia have use this technology in their gpu's implementation. Well, we dont know fully the deep end of the case, so it is a bit hard to know exactly where to put the white line here.
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Didn't know Nvidia was essential to the mobile market, like they're trying to make it sound in the article. Also that they invented the GPU, really? LOL
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They have every right to protect their IP, I don't understand how that makes them inferior in any way. Lol selfish monopolistic behaviour.
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Typical selfish, monopolistic behavior from Nvidia. Making Android and Linus proud huh?
Ummm, no. Nvidia does not do this sort of thing unless there is reason to. They might overprice hardware lately, but they do not do this sort of thing too often. If a patent is infringed upon, it's infringed upon. They have every right to make the case. The same would go for AMD/ATI or Intel...Matrox...anybody.
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these companies both have enuff money they shouldnt care about something like this
Companies exist to make money... If "technology" is being stolen, the company is essentially losing money. Shareholders hate losing money.
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Didn't know Nvidia was essential to the mobile market, like they're trying to make it sound in the article. Also that they invented the GPU, really? LOL
NVidia invented the GPU just like Apple invented the smartphone, digital media player and tablet. In the case of bother companies, they were late to the game but made major leaps at just the right time.
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Didn't know Nvidia was essential to the mobile market, like they're trying to make it sound in the article. Also that they invented the GPU, really? LOL
They definitely are credited with inventing the term.