NVIDIA future GPU is VOLTA and gets on-chip DRAM

lucidus

2013-03-20 08:59

I misread "DRAM" as "DRM" and had a little shock to the system for a moment there :P Ah nice. Looking forward to seeing what Maxwell can do. This Volta is too far off for me.

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Yxskaft

2013-03-20 13:17

Maxwell early 2014 sounds nice. If it were late 2014, I might be tempted to wait for Volta instead. Of course I'll see what AMD has to offer as well before deciding though

#4558335

h0d

2013-03-20 14:17

I'm sure Volta can have more than 3 times faster bandwidth than the Titan. It seems they intentionally slowed their cards improvement to sell more of them. Anyway nice new feature, can't wait to see the real impact of this new architecture.

#4558347

vbetts

Moderator

2013-03-20 14:32

So then the dram will be stacked on the die then? Will there be different memory to accompy it like gddr5?

#4558366

CPC_RedDawn

2013-03-20 15:03

Was waiting for Maxwell to arrive when I my GTX480 (850/1700/2000 @1.1v) But I bit the dust and went team red with the HD7970 and dont see the point in Maxwell now, Volta is very interesting though this might just be the upgrade that us graphics buffs have been waiting for. I think Maxwell will be very strong indeed and will outperform my HD7970 by around 50% but still what games will use it? Crysis 3 looks outstanding now and runs pretty damn well maxed out my single HD7970 with 4xMSAA @ 1080p so there are going to have to be some seriously damanding games that will make use of Maxwell or even the next AMD architecture but I think GCN being as good as it is we will just get a revision of it with the 8K series at the end of year. Also with PS4 being already outdated by current high end PC hardware I see no games truly using Maxwell's potential.

#4558397

k1net1cs

2013-03-20 15:42

I think Maxwell will be very strong indeed and will outperform my HD7970 by around 50% but still what games will use it? Crysis 3 looks outstanding now and runs pretty damn well maxed out my single HD7970 with 4xMSAA @ 1080p

Well, you could try triple-monitor gaming with the same AA level and see if your card would choke or not.

#4558399

JJayzX

2013-03-20 15:45

Maxwell was supposed to be another push into efficiency so I don't think there will a huge performance gain there. It seems like Volta is the one that is going to push for performance more.

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Yxskaft

2013-03-20 17:25

I think Maxwell will be very strong indeed and will outperform my HD7970 by around 50% but still what games will use it? Crysis 3 looks outstanding now and runs pretty damn well maxed out my single HD7970 with 4xMSAA @ 1080p so there are going to have to be some seriously damanding games that will make use of Maxwell or even the next AMD architecture but I think GCN being as good as it is we will just get a revision of it with the 8K series at the end of year. Also with PS4 being already outdated by current high end PC hardware I see no games truly using Maxwell's potential.

I've had similar thoughts, but at least I have a better "excuse" to upgrade than you(need to update my specs here, using a HD 5770 for the time being). Am not counting on playing the next-gen games with this, at least not smoothly. I'm hoping even a mid-range Maxwell/VI GPU will be enough for handling the console ports at high settings for some years(I want the "next 8800GT"), and then I'll upgrade again when/if the PC versions start getting more attention. I'll also be surprised if we don't get DX12 in 2014.

#4558479

seaplane pilot

2013-03-20 17:43

It is not going to happen until 2016 if it ever happens. :3eyes:

#4558587

The Chubu

2013-03-20 20:14

DRAM on chip might sound good, but exactly how much are they talking about? The performance GPU's are already at 3GB, so they have say, 4GB. Will that on-chip memory be the full 4GB, or just say, 512MB?

They don't need huge amounts of eDRAM (or whatever they use), if they can hold up a couple of frames at high resolution it will be enough (say, 64Mb or 128Mb). Thats how xbox 360 devs can get 4x FSAA working (yep, Full Screen Anti Aliasing, something unthinkable if you just check its GPU specs alone), they process the frame on the eDRAM, since its super high bandwidth and super low latency memory, the operation is pretty much free. If im not mistaken, I read they tile the frame in 4 or more since while 10Mb is enough to hold a full HD frame, it isn't enough for holding the frame and storing additional data for the AA pass, so divide an conquer. And still its fast enough to get playable framerates on a 8 year old console 😀 Imagine if you could get 4x FSAA (or more!) with little to no fps impact playing at 1080p (or more?). It would be awesome.

#4558611

alanm

2013-03-20 20:49

He's about to take off! http://i45.tinypic.com/x38rw6.jpg :D

#4558617

CPC_RedDawn

2013-03-20 20:56

Well, you could try triple-monitor gaming with the same AA level and see if your card would choke or not.

1. you dont need any form of AA at those resolutions. 2. I hate triple monitor gaming Now if 4K monitors become cheaper and games natively support the res then yes I could see a use for these chips.

I've had similar thoughts, but at least I have a better "excuse" to upgrade than you(need to update my specs here, using a HD 5770 for the time being). Am not counting on playing the next-gen games with this, at least not smoothly. I'm hoping even a mid-range Maxwell/VI GPU will be enough for handling the console ports at high settings for some years(I want the "next 8800GT"), and then I'll upgrade again when/if the PC versions start getting more attention. I'll also be surprised if we don't get DX12 in 2014.

I completely agree with you, for people on current mid to low range cards or last gen hardware then sure grab one of these as it would be a better value upgrade for you. Also DX12 I don't think will come any time soon. DX11 needs a few more updates and fixes and maybe some performance improvements. Tessellation is only just starting to be used more and if used to much it cripples even the high end cards.

He's about to take off! http://i45.tinypic.com/x38rw6.jpg :D

To infinity and beyond!!!!!!

#4558625

Rich_Guy

2013-03-20 21:06

Rofl 😀

#4558636

---TK---

2013-03-20 21:24

gimme some maxwell action

#4558668

vidra

2013-03-20 22:09

They could call the flagship "Johntra"

#4558730

k1net1cs

2013-03-20 23:27

1. you dont need any form of AA at those resolutions.

Then why do you need 4xMSAA @1080p? Or did you honestly think using three monitors placed horizontally next to each other magically extends each monitor's vertical resolution?

2. I hate triple monitor gaming

Which is inconsequential. You did ask what games would need more than your single 7970. Well, any games that support multi-monitor gaming apparently. With AA.

#4558810

dark_surge

2013-03-21 01:46

Would this be a solution to the stuttering some games have? Not that I've had it lately but I remember it was pretty bad about 6 months ago.

#4558984

Neo Cyrus

2013-03-21 10:28

I misread "DRAM" as "DRM" and had a little shock to the system for a moment there :P

Lol, same. Too bad Maxwell got pushed back by about 18 years. I was hoping to have one already. It's a real kick to the balls that it won't be out when Haswell is. What do I dooooo? 🙁

#4559024

Denial

2013-03-21 12:09

Lol, same. Too bad Maxwell got pushed back by about 18 years. I was hoping to have one already. It's a real kick to the balls that it won't be out when Haswell is. What do I dooooo? 🙁

Keep your current card because there are barely any games worth playing that require something better. My 690 is a complete waste. I haven't really played anything worth my time aside from Starcraft lately and I really don't need a 690 for that.