NVIDIA CES 2022 Special Address Stream (Watch it here)
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dragonlord
The only announcement I want to see from nVidia is massively increased availability of their RTX level products.
Everything else is just meaningless.
Horus-Anhur
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Denial
I hope we see new architecture even if it's enterprise. Ampere is boring now.
alanm
Well this time around they appear to have paid fab makers $ billions more for a bigger supply of chips than they did with Ampere. So lets hope that counts for something.
Of course they need to assert more control over their AIB partners to prevent them from selling in bulk to single non-retail customers (miners/scalpers) to prevent shortages.
tsunami231
Hope for better tech with MUCH LESS POWER USAGE.... would be nice if prices stablelize too, i go out my scrawny limb and say neither are happen much less availability
Devid
Mobile RTX 3080 Thai and the desktop RTX 3090 Thai...
Thanks NVIDIA for bringing more and more stuff from your (Thai) kitchen!
CPC_RedDawn
Terrible presentation.
RTX 3050 is over priced, RX6500 is the better deal at $199.
RTX3090Ti will get scalped to high hell.
Overpriced laptops STARTING at $2499!! No thank you.
AMD's presentation wasn't much better but at least we got more interesting products announced with Zen3D on AM4 and Zen4 at all core 5GHz with the new socket announcement confirming LGA socket, DDR5, PCI5, etc and a firm release window. Also some amazing looking notebooks with RDNA2 APU's which look fantastic, 24Hour battery life??? I will hold you to that AMD.
cucaulay malkin
really ? a 4GB 64-bit card at $200 ? with 50% of cu that 6600xt has while 3050 has 71% of 3060's,and available in 4/8G 128-bit config
6500 can't run anything with that spec,especially the memory configuration is just garbage,that's not nearly enough even for 1080p
rx6500 is just a waste of money.
CPC_RedDawn
You missed out the higher clockspeeds but we shall see in reviews.
cucaulay malkin
yeah and you missed the 64-bit 4GB
it's DOA with that
3050 is $50 more but the 8G 128-bit version,that will actually play games at 1080p
The core configuration is weaker and the 64-bit but and lack of 6/8G options is just awful.
CPC_RedDawn
and $50 to some people is A LOT of money. Like I said wait for benchmarks.
cucaulay malkin
6500 is 5.7TF, 3050 is 9TF.even with amperes fp32+fp32/int32,that is 58% difference.
3060ti-6700xt and 3070ti-6800,that is the corresponding cards from both sides,all have a ~30% difference,not 60%
add a gimped bus and a grossly insufficient vram pool (you need 6G for 1080p) and this is gonna turn out just awful.50 dollars can't save it.
CPC_RedDawn
30-60% faster than 1650ti and 570 (according to AMD)
Also not forgetting but 4GB memory means miners probably won't want this card meaning it SHOULD be closer to its MSRP. The 3050 will get scalped to high hell and be nowhere near its MSRP, I expect it to be more near $400-$500 on ebay.
Sure 6GB on the 6500 would of been better but saying it won't do well at 1080p in games is just silly. My wife's laptop with an APU can game at 1080p low with decent frames. Heck my 4650G in my ITX rig gets good frames in most of the esports and indie titles.
The 6500 will be easily pushing 2.7-2.8GHz out of the box easily.
For people on tight budgets its the better option, imo. I know people where $50 is A LOT of money to them.
cucaulay malkin
lol what
which is it
to throw away $200 on this 4G/64-bit turd ? I don't think that is wise.
CPC_RedDawn
30 to 60% faster than 1650ti and 570 which are some of the most popular gpus people currently use.
cucaulay malkin
okay that shows 1.6x in one game that amd picked 🙄
even 1650 super is over 20% faster than rx570, and it's 4.4 turing tflops, 3050 is 9tf on ampere, it should run cicles around that 1650s.
and 4G 64-bit is not enough for 1080p/high
amd slides 🙄
it's not worth saving 50 bucks for a card that is so cut down,and already costs 200eur.
but I guess for amd fans whatever they do is just awesome,even that.
CPC_RedDawn
compared to a card that will never be anywhere near its MSRP.
No one is arguing its not cut back.
Not everything AMD does is good either, their software announcement's (apart from RSR) were terrible.
Denial
If the 3050 is anything like the 1650 than a giant chunk of them are going to be from OEM sales. So it will be near it's MSRP for a good amount of users.
I'd also rather have cards that are designed according to the specs necessary, then designed to avoid sales to scalpers and miners. I'm not saying AMD did the latter - they were probably targeting a specific price point but I'm not particularly fond of the card from a design standpoint. I'd rather a midrange card shift the window of what's considered midrange then fall below with the only pro of maybe not going over MSRP because literally no one wants it.
CPC_RedDawn
that is a very good point, I didn't think about that.
Stormyandcold
Nvidia clearly not showing their hand then. Looks like they're going to wait a little while longer to announce the real new stuff. Can't blame them, can't even sell enough current RTX cards to meet demand.
