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dfsdfs1112
Why buy old technology?
There is no HDMI 2.1
Not specified who produces the screen? Chinese?
There is no details for screen quality or clear price ?
Watch out for a lot of things NVIDIA has failed and is not a maker of screens
alanm
Any electronics company can "make" displays or TVs. Its not rocket science. Just source the proper panel for the job, add electronics, features, done. Even much smaller companies such as Asus has done a good job with displays. Nvidia is far more advanced in tech and resources they can easily do this. Frankly, I expect them to choose top quality panels but charge a premium for them. Currently they are partnering with Asus for this ROG model, but wouldnt be surprised if they go full blast and make their own. And what has Nvidia failed with exactly? They've been on a winning streak lately and so far ahead of their competition its not funny anymore.
fry178
guess a lot didnt care to read the title:
big format GAMING. not a (desk) monitor, not htpc screen.
so no need for HDR (how many games have it now? how many in the next year/2/5?
by the time that is really being used, i think most will have already replaced this one.
movies have DV, not games, so no need to support that either, at least i wouldnt care,
as i made it the past 30y of gaming without it.
and how much content is running above 60Hz in 4K/UHD?
NOTHING except pc gaming, and then only for some that are interested in higher fps, but usually dont play at 4K.
The consoles are doing 60 as well, so no need to really go higher.
and why would Nv care to support anything but vsync/gsync?
when was the last time amd supported gsync...
and any made made product will eventually be "obsolete.
the only difference is time/cost, and there are enough ppl that dont mind to
spend a certain amount of money to get that kind of screen with given performance
and much lower input lag (as most is coming from tvs processing the signal for picture improvements)..
dfsdfs1112
NO
It requires expertise, the fact that you are not aware of it means that you do not understand it
And you have a non-quality screen.
The larger the screen requires expertise, the more problems you are seen
NO
It takes a lot of knowledge, building electronics circuits, paying for a lot of patents, building a quality algorithm, many years of experience, Build quality processors for signal analysis and screen transmission
It is a fact that Chinese manufacturers NO quality TV'S
Not accurate, Asus buys a structured product and puts a sticker on it
It produces small screens rather than televisions and probably not 65 " where there are many problems
you expect them ?
Nvidia is a business company that is interested in maximizing profits by hundreds of percent!
The last thing that interests her is to sell you a quality product or service.
Nvidia also have issues cards and not ready to answer via e-mail
As opposed to AMD
( Look at what Intel has sold us for 5 years without competition )
I've reached a point where I've given up trying to explain all the wrong things you're writing
alanm
Have you heard of Wasabi or Crossover displays? They are tiny companies that can pull off stuff like this or this.
Have you heard of TCL TVs? They are a Chinese company that often get good ratings at rting.com
Are they Samsung or LG premium quality? No, but not the main point being made. Are they as capable as Nvidia can be if they wanted to do this? NO and THAT is the point.
Thats why I said Any electronics company can "make" displays or TVs in quotation marks. The quality aspect has not been alluded to or implied across the board to all manufacturers or assemblers. Size? This gets into traditional TV territory. And if the earlier mentioned TCL, a cheap Chinese brand, does well enough to get good reviews at rting.com, then Nvidia whose expertise is graphics and image reproduction from products that interface with displays (and TVs), can certainly pull this off on a better level.
Bla bla bla... seems your anti-Nvidia stance is really whats behind your postings and is why you cant accept them getting into new areas such as display tech. They are tech and resource rich enough to pull something like this off. But it cannot be done on a subpar level if they want to succeed with this. If you want to argue that "maximizing their profits by hundreds of percent" (exaggerate much?) must exclude other areas of development that can fit in well with their business model and field of expertise, then OK, noted (as well as your overt antipathy for the company that must taint your argument by default).
dfsdfs1112
I am sorry very poor quality, with 100,090 problems!
Very sorry, agree on a very mediocre level
no
LG oled +led Poor image quality, screens without enough light, poor HDR
In OLED Blu-ray movies are good via USB!
But the Internet, movies that Blu-ray is very bad
You write a lot of wrong things and have no time to waste on nonsense!
I do not agree with you
no
The tests were done in synthetic tests, not quality or professional!
I love the site but whatever I bought in their recommendations, it went out badly
alanm
Always get a kick out of the classic kids argument "hey, you're wrong because I say so" with zero evidence to back it up. I will take rting.com results over what you say any day of the week. Have fun wallowing in your "I hate Nvidia therefore they cannot make BF displays" stance all you want.
dfsdfs1112
Just without facts, you are telling false stories!
You said that.
fry178
@alanm
samsung made a deal with hisense and tcl to provide them (at least) with panels, maybe even tvs.
@dfsdfs1112
to use my STW voice: no clue you have, young padawan.
the source (usb/internet/BD/UHD-BR) has NOTHING to do with image quality.
resolution and bitrate (amongst other things) DOES.
i have vids i use for demos, no not brand specific demos, but movies/games and even files with "streaming quality" comparable to netflix/amazon/hulu etc,
and most of the time customers dont even realize the content runs at "1-step" lower resolution or that its online (vs disc).
so far only you have posted stuff without any proof, especially when i have ppl buy 3000-8000$ tvs,
when they could get one for 1000-2000$, if there was not real difference...
and the nice part about synthetic test? they can be applied to any screen and results are easily comparable between different models/brands etc.
does 3Dmark make a good game/gpu test? no, but it lets me compare the relative computing power between different cards,
and if its 20% faster, its 20% faster, no matter if the test is synthetic or not.
dfsdfs1112
Not true
OLED works by WRGB image method 4 colors white, red, green and blue
All movies only come in 3 colors
Each video card works in 3 colors
Thus through a computer the image quality will not be as good as viewing through a full blu ray via USB
The USB in OLED screen analyzes the signal and gives contras and many details that are not via video card and HDMI
the upscale in LG OLED Via computer terrible Poor OLED algorithm
And because OLED 4 colors this complicates the matter
Everything you wrote does not understand their connection to me or reality?
fry178
Lol, all processing is done by the processor independently from input.
And there is no signal that has more than RGB colors, no matter the source.
Besides that, all colors combined make white, and does NOT require a special signal,
and is the same for all tvs or monitors no matter the brand.
WRGB only applies to (LG) oleds, and no other screen tech, and i dont even consider oleds to be superior, except black levels when watching movies in a dark room.
And you even said it yourself: all content only has 3 colors, so playing it thru different input will not change that, period.
Fact is, the lcd based sony Z9D produces almost the same blacks while keeping the brightness of leds.
And upscaling is only done on signals with non-native res, again, no matter source.
Might wanna read up on stuff..
yasamoka
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Get one thing right please. Have you actually tried ANY of the products you dismiss?
That's ... not really how things work.
A video from a USB flash drive is encoded in essentially RGB (any compression mechanism simply maps from that whether it uses YCbCr or otherwise), so each decoded frame is RGB. That frame is passed to the processor that maps to RGBW.
Guess what a PC input signal does? It also sends raw frames in RGB to the display controller. Each frame is, as you might have guessed by now, passed to the processor that maps to RGBW in the exact same manner.
I understand not knowing something - but to willfully create misinformation is something I can never grasp.
dfsdfs1112
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/asus-and-acer-uhd-g-sync-hdr-monitors-forced-to-use-color-compression-at-120144-hz.html
To all the publicity people of
NVIDIA
, addicted to the nonsense of
NVIDIA
Read and cry how they work on you !!!
" when using a high refresh rate, the image quality dropped significantly. "
" DisplayPort 1.4 has too little bandwidth available to drive 4k, 144 Hz without compression "
" There's no real solution for this, other than new display connectors and graphics cards that do support such high bandwidth connections - HDMI 2.1. "
alanm
I think we get your antipathy for the company and that it may be the main driving force for all your posts here, OK?
These are more early adopter units for those willing to compromise. HDMI 2.1 is still too new to make it to any production till probably end of year. 98hz with Gsync should not be too disappointing (for those with hardware capable of running it). Anyone with half a sense should know to wait for these display designs to mature along with the hardware necessary to run them. Were you similarly outraged at Sharp for releasing their 8k TVs? There will always be early release models of anything to demonstrate the potential of whats to come.
alanm
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dfsdfs1112
The Facts Speak NVIDIA makes bad things !
I'm not a publicist and I do not get money from a manufacturer, to tell the truth ..
If stupidity was a livelihood, you were rich.
What is the "early adopter" relationship?
Write explicitly there is not enough bandwidth to DP 1.4 / HDMI 2.0
Meaning should carry out dirty tricks to sell screen
Bandwidth will not change over the years !!!
If you do not have the hardware and standard to produce 120FPS / 144FPS 4K
Do not lie and sell screens that do not do it !!!
Because PR people look bad trying to sell lies !!!
What the publicists did not say is that the color will reach a maximum of 8 bits at 98hz
fry178
Seems you dont understand the difference between what the "maker" is able to "do" and what they have no control over.
Please explain how it is Nvidias fault that connections are laggig "behind" in capabilities and are the bottlenecking part.
Guess you will also blame car makers for the fact that they make cars that can exceed the legal speed limits, instead of the driver.
Or would you complain to Bentleys/Rolls Roys about ride quality, if you're driving on a rural unpaved road?
Its clear you're ignoring the facts disproving your statements , and as i have yet to see anything from you that doesn't read like "i hate NV",
you're less believable with every post.
nizzen
This forum i getting worse every year.
Too much trolls, whiners and people that think they know something, but they don't...
Ricepudding
Best to ignore the trolls as much as possible, anyone who closes their mind to a product or company is a fool. We should all be cautious and open-minded about new products coming out, as with any luck they can be amazing products that some of us will enjoy.
That doesn't mean pre-order or get into the hype its best us in the tech community stick together with a level headed mind and look at these products with rational thoughts.
I hope this product ends up being lovely for those who prefer couch gaming as i'm sure it would be fantastic for that (for me personally i'm hoping ps5/xbox2 also get into the freesync/gsync era already so i can make more use of this technology)
Best to ignore them personally, don't give them the time of day. They only damage our community and thankfully they are a small fraction so its easy to ignore. but i agree it is becoming annoying seeing them on every article. As i said above we need to be open minded to new/old companies getting into new things, competition is as always a good thing
Fediuld
Samsung NU8000 all models from 55" and above do support Freesync.
And you can go and buy right now the 65" for £1700-1800. Or the curved for £2000
