NVIDIA Announces GeForce RTX 3060 Graphics cards (updated)

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let feb,lol.
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I'm confused. Nvidia wrote an article explaining why the 3080 did not need more than 10GB. Will they post a new article explaining why the 3060 needs 12 I wonder?
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One could argue they have plenty of 3060s in stock from ""bad"" 3080 bins but I'm skeptical.
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One could argue they have plenty of 3060s in stock from ""bad"" 3080 bins but I'm skeptical.
different die
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Amaze:

I'm confused. Nvidia wrote an article explaining why the 3080 did not need more than 10GB. Will they post a new article explaining why the 3060 needs 12 I wonder?
High end 4k gpu dont need more than 10gb while lower end 1080/1440p needs 12gb. They way its meant to be played.
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If someone can get 12GB GDDR6 gaming gpu under 400$, isn't something bad at all. It will deliver better and more futureproof experience than any new gen console. You won't even need to uninstall this GPU if you upgrade your main PC years after, you can keep this installed at a spare rig.
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Massive Yawn ...
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itpro:

If someone can get 12GB GDDR6 gaming gpu under 400$, isn't something bad at all. It will deliver better and more futureproof experience than any new gen console. You won't even need to uninstall this GPU if you upgrade your main PC years after, you can keep this installed at a spare rig.
Yeah, its actually good choice compared to other ampere cards. 3060 12gb for less than 400$ is great. I really hope amd hurry up with 6700xt.
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I'm confused. Nvidia wrote an article explaining why the 3080 did not need more than 10GB. Will they post a new article explaining why the 3060 needs 12 I wonder?
To be fair in that response they specifically say "Extra memory is always nice to have but it would increase the price of the graphics card, so we need to find the right balance." I don't know how much more GDDR6x costs but presumably it's more than GDDR6 + I'm sure they want to slot the card in at a certain price range. I personally haven't found a situation at 4K where the 10GB on my card isn't enough and I plan on upgrading next year anyway because the card still isn't powerful enough for real 4K gaming IMO.
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1. Why putting +50% more VRAM on a card that is slower? The 3060 will probably sit between the 3070 and the 3070S, and 8 GB VRAM would be enough for that performance. And it would make the card cheaper. 1. There were no rasterization performance comparison between NV cards in the RTX 3060 presentation, only RTX? Another interesting thing.
itpro:

If someone can get 12GB GDDR6 gaming gpu under 400$, isn't something bad at all. It will deliver better and more futureproof experience than any new gen console. You won't even need to uninstall this GPU if you upgrade your main PC years after, you can keep this installed at a spare rig.
Why do you think it's more futureproof than any new gen console? What PC could run TLoU2 on 4K? It would have been miles better and reasonable to put 8 GB on the 3060 and 10 or 12 on the Ti. As they only showed RTX performance compared to other NV cards, I'm expecting that it will be significantly slower than the 3060 Ti in raw performance.
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I'm confused. Nvidia wrote an article explaining why the 3080 did not need more than 10GB. Will they post a new article explaining why the 3060 needs 12 I wonder?
my best bet is that the 192 bit bus can utilize effectively 6 gb or 12 ..or 24 24 would be stupid ...6 is low i guess they could make 8gb but that would most likely result in the same thing that happen with the 970 .... i think at least
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This card is the perfect upgrade for my 1660 Ti. More than double the cuda cores and twice the memory, why you gotta tease me Nvidia?
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More VRAM than the 3060 ti but less performance. What is the use of this card then? It would've made more sense if this could've been a 3060 ultra, a 3060 ti with more VRAM.
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"The 3060 will probably sit between the 3070 and the 3070S, and 8 GB VRAM would be enough for that performance. And it would make the card cheaper." Uhm. No.
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Anyone else feel less inclined to buy a 3080 now?
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So far, the only GPU in the 3000 series with a "normal" amount of VRAM is the 3060 Ti.
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Do we have any info for the expected TDP? If it's less or equal to half 3080 consumption it's an instant buy for me.
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12gb vram is an odd amount. It's gotta have something to do with the memory bandwidth setup and requirements for Ampere with lower cores. Must not need to cache as much on a higher end ampere die, but the lower ones probably need that extra cache and bandwidth from the memory to operate effectively. I know this is how Polaris operated at least.
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until the DDR6 supply is well sorted (meaning lower profit margin items) there will be an even greater delay for this model as that self same gddr6 can go to a more profitable card in shorter supply. just reality
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itpro:

Do we have any info for the expected TDP? If it's less or equal to half 3080 consumption it's an instant buy for me.
170W
Amaze:

I'm confused. Nvidia wrote an article explaining why the 3080 did not need more than 10GB. Will they post a new article explaining why the 3060 needs 12 I wonder?
If I'm understanding this right, because of the 192 bit bus width, only 6GB or 12GB are possible (6x 1GB or 6x 2GB VRAM chips), they probably deemed 6GB not enough for this card, and since 1.5GB GDDR6 chips are not being manufactured, something in-between, 9GB, wouldn't be possible. The same applies for the other cards, 256 bit bus width on the 3060 Ti and 3070 means only 8GB or 16GB (8x 1GB or 8x 2GB chips), the 320 bit bus width on the 3080 means only 10GB or 20GB, and the 384 bit bus width on the 3090 means only 12GB or 24GB.