there is not now, or has ever been anything secret on the internet. it's not new, just overly exposed.

aw... NSA just wants to become famous like FBI did. How cute... edit: [spoiler]Don't tell them what SSL is. They are confident with wireshark and "knowledge of TSL".[/spoiler]

I'm really mad at Edward Snowden for getting every journalist spewing the word 'hack' like it's f**king 1996 again. What next, leather jackets and sunglasses?

Lol, as if the Chinese and Russians aren't doing the same thing.

The Chinese and Russians would never do such a thing. 🙄

does all this really matter for the average computer user?

does all this really matter for the average computer user?

Of coarse cause they are monitor your Social websites they everyone and mother need to use along with your cell phones and anything with connection to the net in some way.

here is an article that shows a few methods that might still be impractical for the NSA to spend the time and energy on, but otherwise i defer to my previous post. http://on.wsj.com/1dN4cvx

Of coarse cause they are monitor your Social websites they everyone and mother need to use along with your cell phones and anything with connection to the net in some way.

So that's a no then.

So that's a no then.

No it means it effect anyone that is on social websites, or for that matter any data of theres go threw a router/switch which is everyone on this planet short of the few that boycott the web which is impossible cause it all on the web Or maybe you life off the grind and have no CC/SSN/Birth certificate and all that

Here's what stirs what into a complete nerd rage whenever I read about **** like this: It's resources wasted on a completely artificial problem. I don't care if it's NSA or whatever, all that these so-called "intelligence" operations do is spend monumental amounts of money and resource in an effort to try and one-up the same type of organisation that resides on the other side of an arbitrary red line on a satellite photo. We could spend our resources on ending world hunger, providing education and medical care for everyone or just improve the general quality of life of people - be it on a national or international scale but no... instead we're sinking billions into letting a bunch of spy-novel addicts play out their cops-and-robbers childhood fantasies on an international stage. At best delaying the onset of a truly global human civilization by sowing mistrust and dissent everywhere, at worst... well, we're about to find out I suppose.

No it means it effect anyone that is on social websites, or for that matter any data of theres go threw a router/switch which is everyone on this planet short of the few that boycott the web which is impossible cause it all on the web Or maybe you life off the grind and have no CC/SSN/Birth certificate and all that

And an average computer user cares.about that? Hell, I don't care about it all that much

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2489/juei.png

So this is the American freedom everyone is talking about?

Well for all the time since they were doing this and noone "knew" about this, it wasn't affecting anyone... And now they know about it, some people complain that it affects them. lol! Sorry but thats really funny. You didn't know they were doing it and so it never affect anyone and now that they do know it, it affects them.. My apologies but thats really ridiculous. Saying that you DO NOT like what they are doing is absolutely understandable. But saying its affecting you now and while they were already doing it for quite some time and didn't know about it and didn't affect you then, in any way like, e.g: Going to work normally, talking to friends on social sites/apps normally, watching porn normally then sorry but that's a complete BS. I guess its once again proven that ignorance is Bliss. I hope my comment makes some sense. I'm really sleepy since its about 4:30am here.