NSA can follow nearly everything you do online in real-time
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WhiteLightning
Moderator
yep, and nobody is going to do a damn thing about it
SLI-756
They Know Much More Than You Think
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/aug/15/nsa-they-know-much-more-you-think/
XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data
Illnino
It doesn't really bother me tbh, if your a decent person and doing the right thing I cant see how this is problem, as long as they catch scum before they kill people I'm ok with it.
SLI-756
Techio
Hey NSA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scqz_ZcPz-4
Chillin
SLI-756
But the question is, if we let this go then what's next and what's after that, and what's left for our children?
Chillin
SLI-756
http://i.imgur.com/SWwZHmI.jpg
Yes? 😀
like ..
WhiteLightning
Moderator
Maybe the EU will step in after those reports. We already got the cookielaw. lol
Veeshush
While I'm not doubting the capabilities of the NSA, and am against it for being a waste when it comes to blinding archiving web activities, the press on it is bordering on scaremongering. I haven't seen a decrease of any illegal activities online: media piracy, viruses, digital bank heist, identity theft, fraud- you name it. I haven't seen too many cases of it limiting anyone from doing whatever petty thing they want online, even without HTTPS, or even without Tor.
How the **** could you possibly accurately track or give a **** about internet data from a country of a population of 313.9 million alone? The only possible thing would be file hashes, and again, if they're barely able to scratch the service of media piracy, which would be easy, the hell?
So they'll log your porn searches and collect the money for the man/computer resources of doing so. What a waste.
Chillin
SLI-756
Thanks Chillin.
WhiteLightning
Moderator
Chillin
And that's my point.
When they are able to suddenly store entire images of the internet and of what everyone did or wrote on there, then I'll start to get nervous.
Otherwise, they are really just interested in the stuff they are supposed to be interested about and not you or me unlike some people with inflated ego's would have you believe.
SLI-756
Chillin
Chillin
And by the way, everything I just said is open and common knowledge. I make no claim to know what goes on behind the scenes.
And like I said, I am mostly for such programs, but they have to have much more civilian oversight and open rulebooks.
WhiteLightning
Moderator
ah ok. here everything is kept for 12 months.
Veeshush
Has Snowden even leaked everything he has yet? It seems he keeps pumping out tidbits when his urgency of "all powerful big brother spying on everyone" would suggest he should do otherwise, like uploading everything he has and then blowing his brains out. It's like he was hoping some country would set him up with a condo for his information.
https://torrentfreak.com/how-long-does-your-isp-store-ip-address-logs-120629/
HOWEVER, open routers/wifi can throw a wrench in that. Most people up to something of a noteworthy threat to the public will at least be doing something as simple as looking for wifi spots, using Tor, and using very heavy encryption - if they're not seeing each other in person and transferring data that way (imagine trying to find a micro SD card). And that's only the tidbits I know of, god knows of other better ways.
It's still somewhat of a waste to go that route to begin with, especially when, like you said, much of it is of no value. But that's my argument though, that it's not of any value or concern.
No, right. But those are (at least piracy) what the average person would fear about. Or their Facebook affair messages or whatever the ****. ISPs are even known to hold logs of up to year on internet traffic.