Non-K 13th Gen Core i5 processor (i5-13400) could be based Alder Lake Architecture, Hints Intel Slide
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kanenas
motherbaud
Intel uses two dies for Alder Lake. The 8 core die which includes the i5 12600K/KF CPUs with two cores disabled, and the 6 core die which includes the i3s with two cores disabled. The 6 core die is P cores only so there is no chance of any of the Raptor Lake i5s being relabelled Alder Lakes as they all have E-cores. The other small clue is that Alder Lake CPUs have a minimum clock speed of 0.4Ghz, with Raptor Lake this is raised to 0.8Ghz. If anyone needs any more convincing on this point the table below from wccftech makes it clear:
Horus-Anhur
No improved caches for mid and low range Intel CPUs.
That is a disappointment.
cucaulay malkin
13600kf is mid-range to my mind.
Undying
7600x and 13600k are midrange cpus.
Valken
So its basically get the 13600K/F or faster if you want RKL or go back and get a cheaper 12x00 series like the 12400F to OC.
Would be interesting to see the IPC performance of the P cores clock to clock vs 12x00 vs Zen 4!
kanenas
The IPC gain of the 7000 series comes from the increase in Cache memory and L2, the same seems to be true for INTEL, I'm just afraid that no matter how impressive the GHz provided by both companies are, there will be a bottleneck from one point onwards,recently I saw a review where the 12900k from 5.2GHz to 5.5 gave only 5% more performance, let's hope that the engineers of the 2 companies have found the solution,I don't see how the increase in GHz will bring a linear increase in performance.
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Aura89
I'm not sure if you're saying this is bad or not, but 5.2Ghz to 5.5Ghz is a 5.6% increase, so it should only be around 5% more performance, ideally. Typically would expect less.
And without watching that youtube video, that thumbnail states a 9% increase gives an 18% performance lift? not sure how that'd work out, unless it just relieved a massive bottleneck. 9% increase should not under ideal linear situations increase double.....
Valken
I am hoping Zen 4 3DVC will alleviate further CPU bottlenecks... That is really what I am betting on.
cucaulay malkin
cause that's 5% clock difference.
tunejunky
oh my gosh!
please, pretty please Intel...
we know this is a tough spot with low profitability. but you are trying to launch a new series and you need to avoid confusion like the plague because AL is still out there - still on Amazon/ New Egg/ microcenter and you already know a percentage of sales will be cannibalized.
this in some ways is even worse than AMD's old mobile nomenclature
pigs in pokes piss people proper
cucaulay malkin
if it wasn't for 4 e-cores, it'd be just a 12400 rebrand. it's still a minor upgrade,much less than was expected, at least of what I expected. oh well. at least 12400f are already going on sale below 170eur and 13700f will be proper raptor lake with cache,e-core and imc improvements.
Crazy Serb
I guess Intel decided to adopt AMD shenanigans...
Venix
Devil's advocate here .... But on reasonable prices they can be good CPUs to buy.Are the rockets on Intel 10 or Intel 7 ? If they are on Intel 7 might be so the lower models do not use intel7 allocation ?
Strange for Intel to pull an AMD here .
thestryker
With AMD not competing below $300 with Zen 4 and Intel already being the better choice in that price range it seems to just be a business decision. Without any competition it's got to be cheaper for Intel to just repurpose ADL than to task engineers to design a second RPL core and retool production lines for it as well. I'd assume that MTL will be top to bottom new architecture since they'll be moving to tiles. In theory if that's successful they'll continue to go with new cores for everything after that.
cucaulay malkin
sounds reasonable,amd abandoned the ~200eur segment a long time ago,and for 7600x they have a 13600k with all rkl-s improvements.
