No Dual and Four Cores Zen CPUs all 6 and 8 core
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xIcarus
If the IPC improvement will really bring Zen around Haswell levels, this is going to be amazing. Intel will have to respond and competition will flourish once again.
While they want to dispute the high-end market, I hope they remember that the midrange is more profitable. Let's hope they don't delay midrange processors by too much.
PhazeDelta1
I'm predicting ivy bridge performance at best. We'll see soon enough.
anticupidon
I want AMD to offer something new and exciting.
Bring somethinh to the table AMD , it's time !
Undying
I expected to be faster than a Sandy Bridge. Even if it has 8 cores it needs higher IPC than that.
Either way finally a competition.
Whiplashwang
I really hope AMD start competing again. I'm tired of the lack of competition and Intel jacking up their prices, while only increasing performance by 5% each new CPU generation. Come on AMD! I cheering for you!!
anticupidon
As above..we need a healthy competition!
XenthorX
always the same lol. "Finally competition"
I want to see benchmarks!!!
xIcarus
Can't blame people for being excited. AMD hasn't aimed a release at the high-end CPU market in a long ass time.
Kaarme
Due to the lack of competition and thus Intel milking the market as much as it can, the current midrange is badly lagging behind. If we are extremely lucky, the midrange will move to where it already should be: 6 cores. If Intel has for years now totally forsaken performance development in favour of energy saving (efficiency), so be it, but if this news is true, it might again need to look at the total performance as well, not only placate people who have troubles paying their electricity bills. Especially when Intel itself invented much of the performance, that is, power saving, scaling CPUs automatically do, I reckon.
vbetts
Moderator
Really all I care about are APU's.
Clouseau
Zen...
Do or die, it's all up to you. Strive off the death knell and be restored to a position of prominence. Is it always darkest right before it goes completely black? Red has never been a good financial color.
zer0_c0ol
it is actually 6/8 not only 8 cores...
i cant wait to see if amd will come back to glory
xIcarus
You can't make the midrange 6 or 8 cores when the majority of those purchases are made for gaming purposes.
I mean DX12 is only beginning to materialize, and Intel's midrange has been murdering those games because they hold true to one principle: performance per core.
Soon the market will probably shift, because of DX12 and because of Zen (if Zen delivers).
Fender178
Very interesting move by AMD. I am hoping at least equal to Haswell performance.
semantics
The real killer for AMD is that intel's dies are smaller they spend less on silicon to get the same performance, that's cost and yields makes Intel a killing compared to AMD's margins. AMD is not competitive in quite a few ways.
xrodney
That is matter of question.
Intel maybe have little smaller CPU part of chips, however each have also GPU which takes a lot of space on silicon.
My understanding is that AMD want now release pure CPUs and release APU later on which would have huge effect on price which means AMD CPU should be actually cheaper to make on material basis.
And unless you have internal data from intel hardly you can tell how much costs is added in terms of R&D and runing its own fabs.
Samsung, GFO and TSMC actually might have advantage here compared to intel.
To be honnest I am more then disapointed with intel CPU development in last 5 years.
They went from 32 to 14 nm but yet there is little to no difference between 2700k and 6700k in overal performance using same amount of cores and same power consumption.
If Zen comes with 8 core and have comparable IPC I am all In, because it will be much cheaper and offer more PCI-e lanes then intel.
xIcarus
Is there a rumor concerning PCI-E lanes that I missed?
PhazeDelta1
That rumor has been around for a while. I wouldn't put too much into it.
Kaarme
Isn't that the chicken or the egg question? Obviously nobody would make games requiring more cores if only 2% of buyers had the cores required. With Intel controlling the market, it decided how many cores people have and thus software houses had to stick to that number. If Intel had shifted i5 and i7 (midrange) to 6 cores a few years ago, you would most certainly already see games recommending if not requiring 6 cores.
fantaskarsef
If true, and the IPC and performance can hold up to what Intel offers, I see nothing wrong with capping quad and dual cores.
Everybody on a budget soon has to rely on older CPUs, Intel's i3 offerings, or whatever AMD does once Zen has launched though.
