MSI To Release Five GeForce GTX 1080 Ti graphics cards two with LCS

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GeniusPr0

2017-03-22 08:21

From a side picture, the Gaming X heatsink is bigger just like ASUS Strix

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cryohellinc

2017-03-22 09:14

Well finally Official announcement. Grabbing Sea Hawk asap when its available.

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fantaskarsef

2017-03-22 09:18

Well finally Official announcement. Grabbing Sea Hawk asap when its available.

Yeah I knew there were fellow gurus waiting for that stuff 😀

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cryohellinc

2017-03-22 09:29

Yeah I knew there were fellow gurus waiting for that stuff

Indeed 🙂 however it appears it will have standard PCB. Evga might come up with a custom one, however as always it will be in next 6 months or so. P.S. any news when they will be available?

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Glottiz

2017-03-22 09:55

I don't understand why is there a fan on Sea Hawk? It should be fully cooled by liquid. Seems like MSI is trying to cheap out and just slapped on basic AIO on their card without designing more custom part to cool VRM and VRAM areas with liquid. Gigabyte makes better liquid cooled cards.

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eclap

2017-03-22 10:10

I don't understand why is there a fan on Sea Hawk? It should be fully cooled by liquid. Seems like MSI is trying to cheap out and just slapped on basic AIO on their card without designing more custom part to cool VRM and VRAM areas with liquid. Gigabyte makes better liquid cooled cards.

You can't cool vrm and ram with AIO.

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fantaskarsef

2017-03-22 10:19

I don't understand why is there a fan on Sea Hawk? It should be fully cooled by liquid. Seems like MSI is trying to cheap out and just slapped on basic AIO on their card without designing more custom part to cool VRM and VRAM areas with liquid. Gigabyte makes better liquid cooled cards.

You can't cool vrm and ram with AIO.

Exactly like eclap said... that's the difference between AIO and full cover blocks, as far as I have seen.

#5410717

Netherwind

2017-03-22 10:39

So, let's get down to business - where are the release dates? What about prices?

#5410730

Ridiric

2017-03-22 11:20

Exactly like eclap said... that's the difference between AIO and full cover blocks, as far as I have seen.

Couldn't they do a full cover AIO, like put the pump on the radiator similar to the EK AIO solutions, or even just use a similar style AIO setup to what they are already using but expand it so the pump sits on top of the full cover block instead of just on top of a gpu only block?

#5410746

Solfaur

2017-03-22 11:56

This will be my 3rd generation of MSI Gaming X cards (2x970s, 1x1070) and I literally look every single day for hints of a release date. I already managed to scrap the dough for one, and even though it will be the most expensive GPU I ever bought (only my custom BFG GTX 8800 Ultra is comparable from back in the days), I plan to keep it until the big Volta/Volta refresh (or perhaps a yet unknown monster from AMD) comes out. C'mon MSI, release DROGON already! :eyebrows:

#5410748

Unilythe

2017-03-22 11:58

Indeed 🙂 however it appears it will have standard PCB. Evga might come up with a custom one, however as always it will be in next 6 months or so. P.S. any news when they will be available?

The standard PCB has been proven to be no worse than any custom PCB third-party manufacturers could throw at it unless you go N2 cooling. For both air and watercooling, the standard PCB is MORE than enough. I made the mistake of buying into the whole "custom PCB is better" thing for the GTX 1080, but it's been shown to not make a difference at all at how far you can overclock the GTX 1080. The reference design can go exactly as far as the custom PCB's on water. And now the GTX 1080ti's reference design is even a little overkill. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCNf9DIBGE

Couldn't they do a full cover AIO, like put the pump on the radiator similar to the EK AIO solutions, or even just use a similar style AIO setup to what they are already using but expand it so the pump sits on top of the full cover block instead of just on top of a gpu only block?

They could, but they got the Seahawk EK edition for that. Sure it's not an AiO, but it's a full cover waterblock. I don't think they'd want to make another version that competes with both their Seahawk and Seahawk EK. But you will barely hear that blower fan anyway. It can be set on the lowest RPM possible and probably still cool the VRM enough anyway.

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cryohellinc

2017-03-22 12:07

The standard PCB has been proven to be no worse than any custom PCB third-party manufacturers could throw at it unless you go N2 cooling. For both air and watercooling, the standard PCB is MORE than enough. I made the mistake of buying into the whole "custom PCB is better" thing for the GTX 1080, but it's been shown to not make a difference at all at how far you can overclock the GTX 1080. The reference design can go exactly as far as the custom PCB's on water. And now the GTX 1080ti's reference design is even a little overkill.

Oh i've seen that video before, I follow GN a lot. By no means i say that original PCB is bad, my 1080 runs perfectly fine with AIO @ 2100. Its a great card however does not have enough juice for 3440x1440 ( at least for me ). However USUALLY custom PCB's in the past had higher quality components, yet this time Nvidia indeed went a step ahead for which I am happy.

#5410759

Glottiz

2017-03-22 12:22

You can't cool vrm and ram with AIO.

What? I'm talking about MSI card, not the actual AIOs you can buy separately. Gigabyte GTX1080 Waterforce is doing it properly. No cheap lame methods with extra fans. Everything is cooled with liquid. That's why I'm disappointed with weak MSI attempt at this. http://i.imgur.com/xJfoyIg.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jFTO3sK.jpg

#5410764

fantaskarsef

2017-03-22 12:31

What? I'm talking about MSI card, not the actual AIOs you can buy separately. Gigabyte GTX1080 Waterforce is doing it properly. No cheap lame methods with extra fans. Everything is cooled with liquid. That's why I'm disappointed with weak MSI attempt at this.

Have we seen any real info on the cards yet? Sure the SeaHawk EK looks like AIO aftermarket, but maybe you're right and the SeaHawk (no EK) has a cooler like this? Honestly, I wasn't aware of the Waterforce cooling the power delivery too (although I'd rather have my full cover block anyway).

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cryohellinc

2017-03-22 14:21

Glottiz And the result is exactly the same, Gigabyte version even has higher GPU temps as a result as they share the same heatsink.

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eclap

2017-03-22 14:49

What? I'm talking about MSI card, not the actual AIOs you can buy separately. Gigabyte GTX1080 Waterforce is doing it properly. No cheap lame methods with extra fans. Everything is cooled with liquid. That's why I'm disappointed with weak MSI attempt at this.

Of course, it's doable, but that Gigabyte 1080 is around £70 more expensive than the SeaHawk. You get what you pay for. Either go for a 3rd party air cooled 1080ti with a big 3 slot heatsink (cheapest) or slap the SeaHawk on it (more expensive) or spend even more on the WaterForce. Or spend even more on a water block and custom loop. I wouldn't say MSI cheaped out. MSI offered a good value for money setup here. SeaHawks are good, if you want better, you'll have to spend more money. And as mentioned above, you could end up spending more money and get worse cooling (the WaterForce you talked about above for example). Have a fantastic day.

#5410926

Solfaur

2017-03-22 18:29

Finally! fingers crossed next week!?

The ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti "STRIX GAMING O11G" just popped up today at the store where I usually buy my hardware, so hopefully MSI won't be long now. 🤓

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