Mozilla not happy about Microsoft moving to Chromium project
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Glottiz
Happy Firefox user here for about 14 years. I tried Chrome a couple of times but never liked it, and more recently privacy is becoming a growing concern with Chrome which deterred me from Chrome completely.
I agree with Mozilla CEO, he is of course 100% correct but no one will do anything about it.
asturur
chromium is different than chrome and also i think microsoft wants to adopt chromium in order to do the same privacy game.
I like firefox and i like chrome, and i try to less care about my browsing privacy since everything is then killed by normal things like cookies and advertisements and javascript and anonymous tracking software for web products.
At least they are both open source, thing that MS never did with the browser.
If there are privacy concerns about privacy in CHROMIUM, pull down the source, strip the bad parts, and compile your own.
sverek
Firefox not happy with Chrome coming pre-installed? Damn, what a shame.
As someone who has to mess a lot with HTML5, I would gladly see browsers running on similar engine, or at least follow the same rules.
It is pain in the ass to develop a rather specific and complex web-site or browser tools that supports most browsers without issues.
M$ perhaps finally realized nobody wants to code or use half-broken browser (EDGE).
Chrome and Safari are playing well together by being based on the same engine. Firefox on the other hand, got it own.
I am not surprised developers cutting Firefox when it comes to rather complicated websites that pushes the limits of HTML5.
As developer, I hate to deal with Firefox and fix the code that not working on it. As a consumer, I am glad we have Firefox as a choice.
fantaskarsef
Honestly, what difference does it make? Most people don't even care what browser they're using, even on a PC...
Was a big fan of FF until I believe 52, suddenly a lot of streaming stuff didn't work, no info given why unless you dug deep... never been a fan of chrome or IE or Edge for that matter. I didn't try chromium but I believe I won't be jumping and singing because of it...
All in all, it's just companies competing, little gain or improvement for users anyway.
lucidus
Suddenly people care about Edge :P
rl66
bombardier
Love Firefox!
SHS
mgilbert
I've tried Firefox countless times over the years, including a couple of times in the last few months, and every single time, within minutes, I've run across a website that does not work correctly, or renders so badly as to make the site unusable. I'm sorry, Firefox. Get your act together and I'll use your browser.
asturur
sverek
Asgardi
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/grid) or W3Schools (https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp). Not to mention that good dev tools put this information basically on your face while typing the code...
Yep, much of the issues are in the developers themselves. Web standards are there to make sure all browsers work the same way and they very much do so. The problems start when devs use stuff which are not standardized yet or exist only in standard drafts (display: grid is a good recent example). It is quite trivial to find out if a feature is implemented by all browsers and if not by simply browsing MDN (vbetts
Moderator
Eh here's how I see it.
Mozilla isn't happy that Microsoft is going to use Chromium as a base, and actually have competition while there's Chrome.
Basically, their user base might shrink.
schmidtbag
As much as I'd like to say Mozilla is just butthurt, they do have a valid point. Although I don't dislike Chrome[ium] (I'm using Chromium right now), Firefox could use the help of a larger corporation. Firefox has the potential to be a better browser but they don't have the resources to catch up. I'd say right now, the only major downside to Firefox is the poor support for hardware acceleration.
Not sure how long you've been a web developer but if I were you, I'd be thankful how easy you have it today (relatively speaking). Back when IE was still relevant and when smartphones were first starting to get popular, that's when web devs really had a hard job.
Although I totally understand this point, it's a little weird - only a few years ago, Firefox was the most capable and Chrome was the browser lacking features and had rendering issues.
Chromium has already been out-pacing Firefox and has a larger userbase. For MS to do a new browser based on Chromium puts it in an even greater lead than it already is.
JOHN30011887
Lol, boohoo to firefox, never cared for there browser, prefer and will always use Opera
DLD
Boohoo, boohuh, but Opera died long time ago. I remember how it USED to be a good, fast and non-intrusive browser... Up to, like, version 5.0 (10 years ago, or so). Lately, it has become a terrible piece of bloatware.
RzrTrek
I prefer Firefox and use it daily as my main web browser, but I think they're just salty because Microsoft chose Chromium.
slyphnier
well in current internet world, people just pick what "easiest+smoothest" for them
just realize why u pick ur current browser? simply because it work-best for u right ?
if firefox create better browser for most people, they will jump in...
but rivaling google isnt easy ... android with default chrome browser is like windows - IE
that alone enough to survive quite time like IE
but then with chrome, google succesful creating something that most people dont hate ... not like IE
like easy sync between smartphone to pc is really convinient ... although firefox have such addons
but before using firefox, they already got and use chrome, and as for most people, they wont see any difference between 2 browser... they will use what they got in first place
i myself been switch various browser, firefox-chrome and other custom-build-browser
still main on firefox for several reasons... in past firefox addons really much better than chrome, but now both got same addons, like playstore & apps-store
schmidtbag
Extraordinary
Surely the only people who will start using Edge chromium edition are already Edge users?