Microsoft will separate Edge browser updates from the Windows 10

schmidtbag

2017-05-02 15:26

Can it only be updated in the Windows store, or in addition to the regular Windows Update? Because I don't use the store and I can confidently say I never will. However, I do use Edge (considering how seldom I use Windows for anything other than gaming, Edge works just fine for me).

#5427141

Extraordinary

2017-05-02 15:35

Another tactic to force people to use their store? Don't use Edge, but seems like another transparent trick IMO, don't see why they can update it faster via store than WU?

#5427144

DLD

2017-05-02 15:43

Idiot-browser. Who needs it, anyway...

#5427152

vbetts

Moderator

2017-05-02 16:13

Another tactic to force people to use their store? Don't use Edge, but seems like another transparent trick IMO, don't see why they can update it faster via store than WU?

This is just a stripped down free version of Windows 10 for cheaper machines. Those $200 Windows 10 laptops really are only good for Windows store apps. You could always do what Kodi did and submit the app to the Windows store. Just to note this does not affect anyone building their own machines or buying a machine with Home or Pro. This really does not affect a whole lot of people at all.

#5427153

Extraordinary

2017-05-02 16:17

This is just a stripped down free version of Windows 10 for cheaper machines. Those $200 Windows 10 laptops really are only good for Windows store apps. You could always do what Kodi did and submit the app to the Windows store. Just to note this does not affect anyone building their own machines or buying a machine with Home or Pro. This really does not affect a whole lot of people at all.

Ah my bad, missed the main EDU part lol Yea just watching about it on the live stream atm

#5427155

lucidus

2017-05-02 16:19

That's all going to change in September, when the next feature update to Windows 10, codenamed Redstone 3, is released. Users will finally be able to get updates to the Edge browser via the Windows Store, which will allow Microsoft to add new features more frequently.

Better late than never I guess.

#5427157

TheDeeGee

2017-05-02 16:22

I refuse to make a MS Account and use the Store... infact i have the store uninstalled. I tried it once and it was pure garbage, also ended up having to login everytime i boot PC due to MS Account. No thanks!

#5427158

Extraordinary

2017-05-02 16:25

I refuse to make a MS Account and use the Store... infact i have the store uninstalled. I tried it once and it was pure garbage, also ended up having to login everytime i boot PC due to MS Account. No thanks!

You only need to log into the store with a MSA if you want to install a paid app, if they're free it will happily download / install with a local account But yea, there's not really anything worth downloading in there Also you can log into the store only, rather than the entire OS And for future reference, if you run netplwiz from RUN, you can remove the need to enter a password every time you boot up, uncheck the box, enter your password in the two boxes and hit OK, next boot will log you in automatically

#5427194

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-02 17:17

But yea, there's not really anything worth downloading in there

I disagree. Really good apps that you would prefer vs a normal website or win32 apps aren't many, but there are few that are great. Unstream for Twitch, Audiocloud for Soundcloud, the default Mail/Calendar are excellent, PerfectTube for Youtube, the Netflix app, ReddPlanet for Reddit, the Instagram/Messenger/Facebook apps, Groove Music is seriously good and lightweight, Grover Podcast, Lightreader for epubs, the Skype UWP app they are all better than their desktop equivalents. They also all provide notifications that you can really tailor to your preferences, and more importantly, by using the app you're not carrying tracking cookies all around you when browsing.

#5427258

Dch48

2017-05-02 20:06

I refuse to make a MS Account and use the Store... infact i have the store uninstalled. I tried it once and it was pure garbage, also ended up having to login everytime i boot PC due to MS Account. No thanks!

I always use my MS account and my computers are set to boot up without having to enter a password. It's easy to do if you know how. you just go to Run and type in netplwiz. You will then be presented with the options for automatic login.

#5427270

nick0323

2017-05-02 20:29

Another tactic to force people to use their store? Don't use Edge, but seems like another transparent trick IMO, don't see why they can update it faster via store than WU?

They've been doing this since the start of Windows 10, mobile is a prime example. Detaching apps from the OS and moving them to the Store (such as Mail, etc.) allow for faster updates. Chrome etc. have been doing so for years so what's the issue?

I disagree. Really good apps that you would prefer vs a normal website or win32 apps aren't many, but there are few that are great. Unstream for Twitch, Audiocloud for Soundcloud, the default Mail/Calendar are excellent, PerfectTube for Youtube, the Netflix app, ReddPlanet for Reddit, the Instagram/Messenger/Facebook apps, Groove Music is seriously good and lightweight, Grover Podcast, Lightreader for epubs, the Skype UWP app they are all better than their desktop equivalents. They also all provide notifications that you can really tailor to your preferences, and more importantly, by using the app you're not carrying tracking cookies all around you when browsing.

I initially disagreed with the apps and games from the Store but now I have so many that I use all the time I can't live without it! Some desktop programs I use have been converted to a Windows Store app such as Crystal Disk Mark - now I never have to check for updates within that app again, it just flows from the Store. Skype UWP and Groove Music are champs now - when they were previously glued to the OS they didn't stand a chance!

#5427273

schmidtbag

2017-05-02 20:35

Some desktop programs I use have been converted to a Windows Store app such as Crystal Disk Mark - now I never have to check for updates within that app again, it just flows from the Store.

Meanwhile, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, BSD, Haiku, etc are like "we've had this privilege for years..." I think even Windows Phone could do this before Windows desktop.

#5427275

Fender178

2017-05-02 20:40

I can see this being used the same way them Windows 8/8.1 surface tablets that ran Windows 8/8.1 that used the Windows store for apps. Also I can see how this benefits users who are used to the IOS and Android devices because they are used to this plus Linux and Mac users as well.

#5427279

Serotonin

2017-05-02 20:52

As tired as I am of the hate Microsoft gets for simply being Microsoft...Edge really sucks. I've given it multiple chances. It's terrible. I guess it's nice the downloads will be separate and let you choose to not install?

#5427292

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-02 21:52

It's interesting that they do this. I'm guessing that the major Edge updates will still be delivered more centrally, since Edge's rendering engine is the whole basis of UWP.

As tired as I am of the hate Microsoft gets for simply being Microsoft...Edge really sucks. I've given it multiple chances. It's terrible. I guess it's nice the downloads will be separate and let you choose to not install?

What do you dislike so intensely about it? It's basically like old-time Chrome. I use it because it feels fast and debloated.

#5427304

Battlefieldprin

2017-05-02 22:14

And you still find people buying these kind of products.... . This comes in the time when Microsoft admits that their surface line of products is really suffering.

#5427305

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-02 22:16

Meanwhile, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, BSD, Haiku, etc are like "we've had this privilege for years..." I think even Windows Phone could do this before Windows desktop.

All of the modern "store" apps are basically the concept of the Linux/BSD "ports" attached into different operating systems. Microsoft is trying to apply some of the command line parts of it too, but it's still too cluttered (in traditional Microsoft fashion).

#5427343

nick0323

2017-05-03 01:22

The Store isn't just there for apps or games. All my music/films/TV purchases sync across my phone/pc/surface/xbox. People need to see the Store in a different light...