Microsoft wants just SSDs on pre-built PCs for Windows 11
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mdm
Finally a good move from them!
schmidtbag
I don't really see the point of this push. Sure, I get how MS wants features like DS more widely accessible and they don't want their OS to seem slow (especially compared to competitors) because of a slow HDD, but they could just do a certification program for prebuilt PCs, so people have some idea of what they're getting.
In general, I see this as a bad move, since this is yet another instance of companies moving goalposts to compensate for a lack of optimization. I understand DS actually needs fast storage in order to have any value, but it also isn't a necessary feature. Windows is bloated, NTFS (last I checked) is rather sloppy about keeping data contiguous, and the OS is too "swappy". It also doesn't help that Windows doesn't have an effective way of mounting folders to other drives, which can improve the overall performance since data can be read/written in multiple drives simultaneously. So for example, using an SSD for the boot drive and a HDD for the Users folder.
At least one thing Windows does do easily is using different drives for paging files and to install programs to.
chinobino
Good!
Hard drives are great for storage but have such painfully low IOPS, clearly demonstrated when booting up any OS not just Windows.
I bought my first SSDs in 2010 and 12 years later OEMs are still putting slow spinning rust into new PCs to save on cost - please can we move forwards?
Also, with PCIe 5.0 the bandwidth gap between NVMe SSDs and hard drives just got a lot bigger than it already was.
Horus-Anhur
A good move from MS. No reason not to have an SSD as a boot drive.
XP-200
I use a 250 gig ssd for W10 OS alone and i could never go back to a standard HDD for a OS at this point, and once you use a SSD there is no going back, and even Edison moved on from the wax cylinder at some point. Lol
Agonist
mbk1969
SplashDown
Ya once you go SSD for OS drive you'lll never go back.......
FlawleZ
Definitely all for supporting SSDs in systems but I do see MS just using this to further hide an increasingly bloated OS.
My first SSD upgrade was an OCZ Vertex 1 in 2008ish back on Windows 7. I've had probably 50 more SSDs and to this day none have booted from BIOS to desktop as fast as that one did.
schmidtbag
TheDeeGee
Been using an SSD since late 2009, it should be the standard boot drive by now.
Mineria
Kaarme
Aura89
I support this immensely. HDDs should only be used for storage purposes, not the OS. The amount of new PCs i fix simply by installing an SSD and the people thinking i just performed black magic is astonishing. Plus the fact that most prebuilts come with 1TB HDDs and people see thats larger then an SSD typically and "therefor is better", when they arnt even, often, using more then 100gb, OS included, it's just bad practice for HDDs to still be any kind of default in prebuilts.
There'd be a lot less waste from end users feeling their newish PCs are slow and getting a new one all because they arn't running on an SSD.
bucknuts21
schmidtbag
mbk1969
@schmidtbag
Why do you think there are any optimizations regarding the internal storage details?
Why do you think SATA interfaced HDD and SSD need different optimization?
KissSh0t
Does this mean SSD's will be priced like Hard Drives?
schmidtbag
Airbud
I like windows...it's the best operating system that is the most compatible with most/all software.
PS: (just my opinion)