Microsoft Releases W8.1 Patch for Mouse Gaming Lag

#4698500

jmikkelson

2013-11-11 10:27

So all the forums blaming the drivers for their mouse lag and it was Windows all along. Way to go Mr Gates!

#4698549

rl66

2013-11-11 12:26

So all the forums blaming the drivers for their mouse lag and it was Windows all along. Way to go Mr Gates!

no, it is Balmer, no more Gates lol

#4698550

TeX_UK

2013-11-11 12:27

I must say that I have not experienced mouse lag with 8.1 is this a problem with a specific mouse brand ? .

#4698573

NAMEk

2013-11-11 13:11

they could do better to fix it....

#4698580

trocio2

2013-11-11 13:20

I think my mouse responds a little bit faster with this patch. I'm not sure.

#4698587

drbaltazar

2013-11-11 13:32

@microsoft:do window user a favor ,could you at window 8.1 install ask user what they ll use system for gees ! Microsoft activate countless measure that cause issue for gamer . ms keep it simple please . use invariant tsc and keep the NOW message signal interrupt (or its extended variant) in processor cache . I get from 14 to 40,ms in the secret world and I don't know what I'm doing , so please stop screwing up our desktop .always ask a desktop user first before and if you don't ask make sure the tack testing doesn't weir glass or hearing aid . PSiItthink ms engineer are all in India.why ? CCommon those engineer aren'tfrom quebec , if the ms engineer were from Quebec, xXboxone would be full GPU (there wouldn'tbe 2locked gGPU coré)and cpu would be at AMD max. Power saving ? Come on offer that to India gees not in north america .

#4698839

V@IO

2013-11-11 20:04

@microsoft:do window user a favor ,could you at window 8.1 install ask user what they ll use system for gees ! Microsoft activate countless measure that cause issue for gamer . ms keep it simple please . use invariant tsc and keep the NOW message signal interrupt (or its extended variant) in processor cache . I get from 14 to 40,ms in the secret world and I don't know what I'm doing , so please stop screwing up our desktop .always ask a desktop user first before and if you don't ask make sure the tack testing doesn't weir glass or hearing aid . PSiItthink ms engineer are all in India.why ? CCommon those engineer aren'tfrom quebec , if the ms engineer were from Quebec, xXboxone would be full GPU (there wouldn'tbe 2locked gGPU coré)and cpu would be at AMD max. Power saving ? Come on offer that to India gees not in north america .

LoL WHAAAAT ???

#4698916

Ash

2013-11-11 22:03

LoL WHAAAAT ???

I think I spotted an English word in that wall of text! :bang:

#4698926

drbaltazar

2013-11-11 22:19

You stopped reading at : @ microsoft

#4699094

scoter man1

2013-11-12 03:41

You stopped reading at : @ microsoft

Still not sure why you type like that. I've seen it before and it's just like :3eyes: (no offence, man)

#4699145

kanej2007

2013-11-12 06:56

Still not sure why you type like that. I've seen it before and it's just like :3eyes: (no offence, man)

His location clearly specifies he is from a French part of America. Explains the problem doesn't it? 😀

#4699155

buddybd

2013-11-12 07:37

I must say that I have not experienced mouse lag with 8.1 is this a problem with a specific mouse brand ? .

Its a universal problem but can be avoided if you use Raw input.

#4699200

TeX_UK

2013-11-12 08:56

Its a universal problem but can be avoided if you use Raw input.

Why would anybody spend a lot of money on a gaming mouse & not use raw input, madness ! :bang:

#4699205

SLI-756

2013-11-12 09:02

Why would anybody spend a lot of money on a gaming mouse & not use raw input, madness ! :bang:

not every game has a 'raw input' option, or a 'disable mouse accelleration' in the config. for ex. anyways I don't feel it, at least on games I play and desktop, using 4000dpi. moving from a monitor to a tele I sure felt it then, thats when I went for higher dpi mouse(for sake of the much larger screen) and set tele to monitor mode and now it's fine again.

#4699734

Corrupt^

2013-11-12 21:07

Its a universal problem but can be avoided if you use Raw input.

To be more technical and specific: Games using WM_MOUSEMOVE or GetCursorPos to get mouse data were affected 🤓

Why would anybody spend a lot of money on a gaming mouse & not use raw input, madness ! :bang:

Because Valve's implementation is smoothed in CSGO and actually feels worse then not using rawinput for instance. Strangely m_filter as a command has also vanished in CSGO.

#4700016

sabbede

2013-11-13 02:49

Okay, why isn't anybody asking the big question? What the hell is DT? And what the hell is DIT for that matter? What makes DIT better, but not in games?

#4702637

JonasBeckman

2013-11-16 06:45

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 v2 is out now adding support for some more games, I think.

#4702661

WhiteLightning

Moderator

2013-11-16 08:36

thanks jonas installed it , allied assault is still acting weird though so iv added it through registry again. seems easier to just keep a registry file on the desktop for easier access. [spoiler]

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"d:\\Install\\GOG\\Medal of Honor - Allied Assault War Chest\\moh_spearhead.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
"d:\\Install\\GOG\\Medal of Honor - Allied Assault War Chest\\moh_breakthrough.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

then in command prompt

Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache

[/spoiler] Seems kind of sillly to do this every time though, imo they shouldnt release any more updates untill they have added all games or fix/revert this high dpi thing.

#4702669

anticupidon

2013-11-16 09:06

i experienced "lag" in mouse cursor moves,trying to play Dead Space. could this be the fix?

#4702671

WhiteLightning

Moderator

2013-11-16 09:22

well it could very well help. the game is not listed though so maybe you need to add it to the registry yourself. (besides just the update) you could always delete the registry entries and kb update if it doesnt seem to do anything. for me it takes mouse accelleration and stuttering away in mohaa. I remember dead space being sluggish by default though (especially when the vsync ingame was on (which was giving a 30fps lock as well)).