Meteor Lake, Arrow Lake, and Lunar Lake CPUs are confirmed in Intel roadmap

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#5994057
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up to eight high-performance cores is a bit sad 🙁 I want 600w+ 16 p-core monster
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nizzen:

up to eight high-performance cores is a bit sad 🙁 I want 600w+ 16 p-core monster
niche products don't generate much profits . Intel is on hunt for market share and profits now.
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i'm excited to see RL. i haven't been terribly impressed w/AL but i recognize a huge leap from them sitting on their butt (metaphorically). RL will help Intel sell it's Xe cards as they're already outdated (and delayed...again) so there will be a lot of "frankenstein" oem systems with cutting edge cpu and bargain bin gpu. for some reason (ocd???) a lot of peeps like the same brand throughout.
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nizzen:

up to eight high-performance cores is a bit sad 🙁 I want 600w+ 16 p-core monster
That will be in their back pocket in case AMD comes up with a competitive monster. I kind of like the idea of a gaming focused CPU that does not attempt to be efficient at all and all sacrifices are made in the name of FPS.
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nosirrahx:

That will be in their back pocket in case AMD comes up with a competitive monster. I kind of like the idea of a gaming focused CPU that does not attempt to be efficient at all and all sacrifices are made in the name of FPS.
i like supercars too but can't afford to run one. but they have to be able to sell them and despite the muscle-car appeal the reality is efficiency is a major criteria for enterprise and government as the scale of (being able to sell such a chip at a reasonable price) heat and power become financial questions. meaning your power bill and cooling costs of a building. which also becomes a lightning rod for "green issues". right now Intel has lost entire categories of the server market for those reasons plus moah cores. so ...cue the trumpets... P & E cores. it will work eventually but it's still not even close to the perf/watt of Zen 3+ (in the APU category) and it may never will be given the node and uArch advantages AMD is showing off.
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And the era of 10+++++ just began.... see you at 2030!
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tty8k:

From the leaks I'm chewing, doesn't look like RL is going to be a big improvement over AL. Still a good chip though.
funny i got the opposite reaction.
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tunejunky:

i like supercars too but can't afford to run one. but they have to be able to sell them and despite the muscle-car appeal the reality is efficiency is a major criteria for enterprise and government as the scale of (being able to sell such a chip at a reasonable price) heat and power become financial questions. meaning your power bill and cooling costs of a building. which also becomes a lightning rod for "green issues". right now Intel has lost entire categories of the server market for those reasons plus moah cores. so ...cue the trumpets... P & E cores. it will work eventually but it's still not even close to the perf/watt of Zen 3+ (in the APU category) and it may never will be given the node and uArch advantages AMD is showing off.
But in FPS per watt in games with tuned DDR5, Alder Lake is smashing Zen 3 (5950X). It's up to 50% more fps per watt. That's pretty insane.
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I want performance and silence even when compiling unreal engine. Love 5900X but with my Corsair 100X it’s too much noise.
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What they need to do is lose 2 E-Core clusters so that they can fit 2 more P-Cores on the chip instead.
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nizzen:

But in FPS per watt in games with tuned DDR5, Alder Lake is smashing Zen 3 (5950X). It's up to 50% more fps per watt. That's pretty insane.
oh i agree as far as games go, 5900x fares slightly better. but this is why i'm more excited about Meteor Lake as it's ticking that tock like the old school. and i don't doubt their 7++ will have improvements too. but all of this is begging the question what exactly are you using your pc for? for me there is zero interest in spending $500 for RAM (nowadays) for two sticks of RAM plus another $100 on top for the z690 (vs x570s). there are cheaper mobos, but not for 12900k and not when ML is being released within a calendar year.
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nizzen:

up to eight high-performance cores is a bit sad 🙁 I want 600w+ 16 p-core monster
I want 250w+ 16 p-core with MONSTER performance. Need headroom for OC to 8 Jizzahurts! 😀
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nizzen:

up to eight high-performance cores is a bit sad 🙁 I want 600w+ 16 p-core monster
From your mouth to Gelsinger's ears... hate this bigLITTLE trend 🙄
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RavenMaster:

What they need to do is lose 2 E-Core clusters so that they can fit 2 more P-Cores on the chip instead.
Yeah like a special edition AL or RL, 10 cores, with a fat cache would be awesome! 😀