well... if you need another useless thing (unless you don't have any kind of speaker) that looks gamery and spaceshipy, there you have it.

Like a mini sound bar for monitors. LG was never known for audio. They should just stick to the visual side of things (TVs, monitors). Decent audio best handled by home HiFi gear, not PC related audio.

yea I'm sure there's great quality from those tiny dinky speakers /s

alanm:

Like a mini sound bar for monitors. LG was never known for audio. They should just stick to the visual side of things (TVs, monitors). Decent audio best handled by home HiFi gear, not PC related audio.

actually, LG is known for making the best portable audio player to ever double as a cell phone, categorically and they've had a long relationship with Bang & Olufsen

i'm sensing deep ROG envy... but seriously this could have been a win if they used a soundbar format. there is a market for PC monitor soundbar, but to date most have screwed the pooch. if made it a sound-platform/box that could incorporate an actual woofer (like Zvox) and featured an hdmi pass-through they could rock the 27"- 35" monitor market, especially if they borrowed a pro audio trick of incorporating a stand mount

tunejunky:

actually, LG is known for making the best portable audio player to ever double as a cell phone, categorically and they've had a long relationship with Bang & Olufsen

What I mean "good audio" is audio capable of handling close to the full frequency range (20hz -20khz @ +/- 3db). Which I'm sure no sound bar or portable audio player can ever reproduce. Only dedicated Hi-Fi components can do that.

I wasted a good 10 years with an awful Logitech "home theater", good for movies "yes" games "meh" for music ? "atrocious" do yourself a favor and buy STUDIO MONITORS I wrote this in caps because if you don't know what their description is you will never find them, they are almost never proposed in electronic websites unless you know exactly what they are because you find them in the "pro audio" sections, not in computer hardware several known youtubers use them on their real home pc, like jayztwocents and you can watch a lot of celebrity artists using them at home to create music before they go to the real studio I'm running KRK Rokit RP5 G4 with a Behringer HD400 using quite a lot of cables to connect all, you need a noise killer like the behringer because modern gpus generate insane noise through analogic outputs compared to computer speakers, it's another universe, I'm not an audio freak I listen to whatever quality mp3s..yes mp3s..i can find but still, with some track it's like the singer or musician is hiding behind my screen, hugely better sound, as an ex-dj I absolutely love them since I'm at recommandations here's a way to add a real serious equalizer to windows (very useful for TRX40 and X570 motherboards who replace the equalizer by a logo of their brand ?!) https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ https://appuals.com/how-to-fix-equalizer-apo-not-working-on-windows-10/ equalizerapo can also use VST plugins and allows full customisation of your frequencies, by the way of a txt file you can have a 200 band equalization if you want to

kakiharaFRS:

I wasted a good 10 years with an awful Logitech "home theater", good for movies "yes" games "meh" for music ? "atrocious" do yourself a favor and buy STUDIO MONITORS I wrote this in caps because if you don't know what their description is you will never find them, they are almost never proposed in electronic websites unless you know exactly what they are because you find them in the "pro audio" sections, not in computer hardware several known youtubers use them on their real home pc, like jayztwocents and you can watch a lot of celebrity artists using them at home to create music before they go to the real studio I'm running KRK Rokit RP5 G4 with a Behringer HD400 using quite a lot of cables to connect all, you need a noise killer like the behringer because modern gpus generate insane noise through analogic outputs compared to computer speakers, it's another universe, I'm not an audio freak I listen to whatever quality mp3s..yes mp3s..i can find but still, with some track it's like the singer or musician is hiding behind my screen, hugely better sound, as an ex-dj I absolutely love them since I'm at recommandations here's a way to add a real serious equalizer to windows (very useful for TRX40 and X570 motherboards who replace the equalizer by a logo of their brand ?!) https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ https://appuals.com/how-to-fix-equalizer-apo-not-working-on-windows-10/ equalizerapo can also use VST plugins and allows full customisation of your frequencies, by the way of a txt file you can have a 200 band equalization if you want to

Well... another option is to connect the PC to a decent amp, and the amp to a decent TV, and voilà! Home Cinema Dolby Atmos Gaming! Not many games work very well with Atmos (height speakers get unused), but 7.1 seems to work OK on most.

i am of the opinion no one and i mean no one care how bad or good monitor/tv speakers are, cause most have there own pc speakers/tv surround setups that worlds better. That said I do want my next monitor to have speaker but just cause I refuse to by new speakers for my pc to replace 25+ yearold 2.1 altec system i have that no good. that and i use headphones mostly now. but have speakers on my monitor would be nice for the odd video play here and there

alanm:

What I mean "good audio" is audio capable of handling close to the full frequency range (20hz -20khz @ +/- 3db). Which I'm sure no sound bar or portable audio player can ever reproduce. Only dedicated Hi-Fi components can do that.

i agree with that definition, but you are wrong about LG my v60thinQ(and it's predecessors) has been tested superior to all DAC's under 1k and better than most under 2.5k by Audiophile magazine. not only have i worked in consumer electronics for over 35 years, i'm also talented with a soldering iron and have made mods to legendary pieces of kit. i can afford anything i want in the audio space, indeed my main speakers cost more than most peoples entire collection of electronics combined (pc & audio/video). i've equalized room responses long before there were algorithms for that making my own parametric EQ's. my main DAC is a Chord Hugo TT (which costs more than a 3090) my LG phone outperforms the Chord Mojo at the same price.

Idk I personally find high quality DACs to be a waste of money after a certain price point. Amplifiers color sound to some degree but I never could hear a difference between a $500 DAC and a $3000 one.

kakiharaFRS:

I wasted a good 10 years with an awful Logitech "home theater", good for movies "yes" games "meh" for music ? "atrocious" do yourself a favor and buy STUDIO MONITORS I wrote this in caps because if you don't know what their description is you will never find them, they are almost never proposed in electronic websites unless you know exactly what they are because you find them in the "pro audio" sections, not in computer hardware several known youtubers use them on their real home pc, like jayztwocents and you can watch a lot of celebrity artists using them at home to create music before they go to the real studio I'm running KRK Rokit RP5 G4 with a Behringer HD400 using quite a lot of cables to connect all, you need a noise killer like the behringer because modern gpus generate insane noise through analogic outputs compared to computer speakers, it's another universe, I'm not an audio freak I listen to whatever quality mp3s..yes mp3s..i can find but still, with some track it's like the singer or musician is hiding behind my screen, hugely better sound, as an ex-dj I absolutely love them since I'm at recommandations here's a way to add a real serious equalizer to windows (very useful for TRX40 and X570 motherboards who replace the equalizer by a logo of their brand ?!) https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/ https://appuals.com/how-to-fix-equalizer-apo-not-working-on-windows-10/ equalizerapo can also use VST plugins and allows full customisation of your frequencies, by the way of a txt file you can have a 200 band equalization if you want to

you nailed it. the KRK's are inexpensive and WAY better than "pc speakers" or soundbars. for a real treat i'd also recommend the Tannoy Gold 7. not only did Tannoy INVENT the modern speaker, they invented the Studio Monitor too. the Alesis is quite good and many like the Adam.

Denial:

Idk I personally find high quality DACs to be a waste of money after a certain price point. Amplifiers color sound to some degree but I never could hear a difference between a $500 DAC and a $3000 one.

each their own. but to really hear the difference you need a quality speaker (which doesn't mean you won't have same opinion)

tunejunky:

actually, LG is known for making the best portable audio player to ever double as a cell phone, categorically and they've had a long relationship with Bang & Olufsen

So true! I had the V20, followed by the G6.....awesome DAPs that doubles as a handphones!;) Due to space constraint, I'd had to sell my KRK Rokit 5 G3 and settle for an LG ATMOS/DTS:X soundbar, it's a good compromise for me as I really do not have the space for a good pair of monitors.

tunejunky:

each their own. but to really hear the difference you need a quality speaker (which doesn't mean you won't have same opinion)

I have a pair of KEF R7s - not a reference series (I might actually buy Reference 5's when KEF does their next update) but still pretty decent, I have them connected to a Parasound Halo A21 amp. I haven't experimented that much with DACs but I briefly owned a Parasound P6 and couldn't tell the difference between that and my $700 Marantz Receiver I had at the time. Had a few others since then but honestly every time I switch DACs (with the same speakers/amp/etc) I never feel like I'm gaining anything - always sounds the same to me. Same thing with my headphones honestly (Focal Clears) - went from driving them with a Creative Soundcard, to a JDS Atom to a JDS Element II and despite measuring significantly better I couldn't hear any difference. Dunno. On top of that Audio Science Review has the Gustard X16 as one of the top reviewed DACs and it's $500. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/gustard-x16-balanced-mqa-dac-review.17419/ Honestly there is a few top ones on his list that are under $1K. Don't get me wrong - I think there is a quality increase as you go up in price but I find the diminishing returns on DACs to be far more severe than amplifiers or speakers. _ That being said I agree about the V20. I used to have custom UEs (sold em) that I used through various phones and one of my coworkers had a V20 even though they weren't into sound at all. Was curious how much of a difference it made compared to my Nexus 6P or maybe Nexus 5? Don't recall but I remember the V20 just sounding insanely better.

Denial:

Idk I personally find high quality DACs to be a waste of money after a certain price point. Amplifiers color sound to some degree but I never could hear a difference between a $500 DAC and a $3000 one.

Agree. Law of diminishing returns in audio IMO applies more to DACs than other components. The speaker is the more important part of the audio chain (aside from the source or actual quality of the recording). You can throw as much money as you can into speakers and still get improvement in sound. DACs wont give you sound stage and imaging or frequency extension, only speakers can do that. DACs resolving beyond 24-bits, 192khz or beyond the limits of human hearing is more marketing fluff imo, though many seasoned audiophiles swear by them. But each to their own.

alanm:

Agree. Law of diminishing returns in audio IMO applies more to DACs than other components. The speaker is the more important part of the audio chain (aside from the source or actual quality of the recording). You can throw as much money as you can into speakers and still get improvement in sound. DACs wont give you sound stage and imaging or frequency extension, only speakers can do that. DACs resolving beyond 24-bits, 192khz or beyond the limits of human hearing is more marketing fluff imo, though many seasoned audiophiles swear by them. But each to their own.

totally true i owned the very first DAC/Transport (Meridian) and i kept it for over 10 years. there were no superior stand alone CD players. when i updated it was because they added digital inputs(opt/coax) so i could plug in my DAT (lol) but all of that was exotic, now the level of awesome sound is so commonplace i'm more surprised when it's bad. i mean c'mon, i've built entire gaming pcs for what i paid for that Meridian. the level of quality sound you can get under $400 with a dac and a headphone would have either been unattainable or so expensive it was unattainable for many.