Godzilla, quakes, tsunamis, nuclear meltdown, yup, makes sense...

That's good news for everyone, we (the world) need another few powerhouse chip production locations for when China invades the sovereign country of Taiwan.

Brasky:

That's good news for everyone, we (the world) need another few powerhouse chip production locations for when China invades the sovereign country of Taiwan.

I keep watching the news for this and man it keeps escalating day by day. Verry worrysome.

The article seems to imply there may be a new company - why not just dump the money into GloFo? Might be cheaper, and it would be a little sad for them to be pushed even further behind than they are now.

schmidtbag:

The article seems to imply there may be a new company - why not just dump the money into GloFo? Might be cheaper, and it would be a little sad for them to be pushed even further behind than they are now.

despite the headline the true purpose is to ensure a US/Japanese source for advanced Lithography. when every major competitor to ASML is American or Japanese (Applied Materials, KLA, Nikon, Canon) this begins to make sense. after all there's no 2nm w/o EUV and this consortium can leverage all existing in-house R&D and keep clear of patents (otherwise they would announce licensing). there is no fab without lithography and Intel has guaranteed ASML's future (but keeping single sourcing worries alive) to the tune of billions of dollars

The more the merrier. I'm honestly sick of hearing about shortages of any kind.

Brasky:

That's good news for everyone, we (the world) need another few powerhouse chip production locations for when China invades the sovereign country of Taiwan.

It's not a sovereign country, though. Because it has never wanted to be. Both China and Taiwan still officially dream of One China, with the difference being who's in charge (democracy vs communism).

Kaarme:

It's not a sovereign country, though

Here's the government of Taiwan's information to clear up your confusion. https://www.taiwan.gov.tw/about.php It doesn't list the CCP as the governing party or Xi Jinping as the leader. Here's a recent article about the Taiwan Strait as well. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2022/06/15/2003779912

Brasky:

Here's the government of Taiwan's information to clear up your confusion. https://www.taiwan.gov.tw/about.php It doesn't list the CCP as the governing party or Xi Jinping as the leader. Here's a recent article about the Taiwan Strait as well. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2022/06/15/2003779912

Yes...But there is a nuance here that has to be mentioned. the Taiwanese are embracing the local cultures of the indigenous to a level that is demographically (very) significant. and what that is is a rejection of being Chinese (Han). this is a true form of (non-ideological) nationalism. the political form of (Taiwanese) nationalism was (violently) repressed by both the Kuomintang and The CCP. the average number of Taiwanese that support nationalism has always hovered around 30%. so now in the Post Ukraine Taiwan the apolitical (under 30) has lined up with the political so you have about 50% that support nationhood. everything else that the press mentions is jingoism on both sides. there is zero realistic belief in ruling all of China in Taiwan, but near 100% belief in mainlanders in ruling Taiwan.

The people in Taiwan don't want to rule mainland China, the people in mainland China want to rule Taiwan. Would that be correct?

Brasky:

The people in Taiwan don't want to rule mainland China, the people in mainland China want to rule Taiwan. Would that be correct?

Not necessarily. At one point, the Kuomintang, lead by Chiang Kai-shek, ruled China. But they lost the civil war against the Communist party, and took refuge in Taiwan. Both the Kuomintang and the CCP, claimed rule over China. And both had communist, authoritarian ideologies. At one point, the CCP offered the Kuomintang the opportunity to join the CCP party and unify China and Taiwan. But Chiang refused. At one point, there were plans from the CCP and Mao, to invade Taiwan. But due to the Korean war and the US having such a large force in the area, the CCP decided against starting a major invasion. Eventually Chiang died and his son took his place, leading the Kuomintang. But he saw that the people in Taiwan didn't want to continue an autocratic regime, so he stepped down and instituted a democratic government. After this, the divide between mainland Communist China and Taiwan increased.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Japan and the US have signed a bilateral chip technology partnership. This could end up as a joint venture between Japanese and US firms, or a wholly Japanese-owned setup. Semiconductors could be used... Japan with USA want to produce cutting-edge 2-nm chips as soon as 2025

Valken:

Godzilla, quakes, tsunamis, nuclear meltdown, yup, makes sense...

And don't forget their -----> 111 <------ active volcanoes.https://media4.giphy.com/media/kFBzcaDl384sZkZoBm/200w.gif?cid=ecf05e47qgp2rj1zo918cnwu6tsbeiu0i4ulxrh2bdfst71a&rid=200w.gif&ct=ghttps://media3.giphy.com/media/r5gHt2TCIiHK0/200.gif?cid=ecf05e474al6ezao11ah9flm48fdv6svnvbmhshlygrlarbo&rid=200.gif&ct=g

More bleeding edge fabs around the world are a good thing ! I hope everything goes well !

Brasky:

The people in Taiwan don't want to rule mainland China, the people in mainland China want to rule Taiwan. Would that be correct?

very much so