Updated: Geforce RTX 2080 Ti Super Rumors Surface again

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gotta hand it to NVIDIA....they're gonna stay on top! I just wish I could afford one....:p
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They can work how they want not intrested on another overpriced gpu.
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Told everybody the super is coming nobody believed me xD Time to sell sell my msi gtx 1080 ti gaming x.
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nothing to see here, the T10-8 is a Tesla board.
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And the release date might be mid december as well. hope i am right xD
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ttnuagmada:

Since when was TU102 in a Tesla product?
It wasn't, T4 is the only Turing Tesla so far and the T10 is already a thing back i the GT200 days, so diffentiate it with T10-8. Theres been 8 generations of Tesla and all parts have had a highest end version so far.
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No prizes for guessing correctly that they'll keep 'refreshing' where they think justified. The 30% more performance that I currently have puts me at the 2080Ti. In the very recent past, the price difference for such an upgrade used to be affordable/palatable. I ain't dropping >>1000 for any gfx card to get me that increase! It's a pitty Ngreedia is still trying hard to maintain this ludicrous price bar. I honestly hope, for sanity's sake, the majority of folk who are able to buy these are still not!!
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It can't be more expensive than the 2080Ti can it? I mean 1400€ for a card...
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This could just be a "fully working" 2080ti with more cores and full memory bus. This could be a titan rtx just with half of the memory removed to have the same amount as the 2080ti, but still with the better GPU. It does not really matter if they call it Super or Titan the essence is the same.
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ttnuagmada:

I'm guessing full TU102. Probably have an excess of them since 12nm is a mature node. Same scenario as the 2080S.
Full TU102 dies are used in Quadros and Titan RTX already. There is no objective reason to cannibalize either unless they sell poorly and they are going for mere rebrand as there is no extra feature lock present in 2080 Ti vs RTX Titan. In that case there is good chance that it will not be fully unlocked, but something in between 2080 Ti and RTX Titan. And question is, will it have 12GB of VRAM therefore full 96ROPs or 11GB with 88ROPs?
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ttnuagmada:

That actually makes perfect sense.
it doesn't make sense for it to be a Geforce part, nvidia's core numbering is more like TU10x-xxx(y)
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If so, then they must be expecting AMD to come out with something close to the 2080ti in performance, ie 5800, etc. There is not much business sense for them to do it otherwise. They definitely can do it, but again, it will be more likely timed with what AMD may be doing.
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Netherwind:

It can't be more expensive than the 2080Ti can it? I mean 1400€ for a card...
Only 1399€
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ttnuagmada:

They wouldn't be cannibalizing anything. The amount of memory the Quadro's/Titan have is their main selling point. No one is paying 2500+ dollars for the extra 256 shader cores. A full TU102 2080 TI S wouldn't cannibalize Quadro's anymore than the full TU104 2080S is going to cannibalize the full TU104 Quadro's. On top of that, what would even exist between a Ti and a Titan? You'd be looking at a less than 3% increase in CUDA cores if you went from 68 to 70 SM's. This would clearly be the same scenario as the TU104/2080S; 12nm is mature, and they have an excess of full dies. Either way, someone already pointed out that it's likely a Tesla part anyhow.
Fully working TU102 die used in RTX gaming GPU is exact definition of cannibalization of RTX Titan card. That's like $1000 loss right there.
ttnuagmada:

I mean if they have an excess of full dies, it only makes sense to put them in something. Going by the 5700 XT's TDP/performance, AMD would have to break 300w to match the 2080 Ti. I don't really think Nvidia is too worried.
What TDP/Performance? I can lower performance by 10% and have card at 135W. In other words, 1.8X performance of 5700 XT at 270W with double die size. In case of HBM use, both power values and achievable performance will be better as even 5700 XT is memory bandwidth limited and therefore given final clock is not exactly efficient. Having faster memory, 5700 XT could likely perform 10% better at same TBP.
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Fox2232:

Fully working TU102 die used in RTX gaming GPU is exact definition of cannibalization of RTX Titan card. That's like $1000 loss right there.
Titan RTX for gaming is joke who will use 2500€ gpu for gaming?
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Petr V:

Titan RTX for gaming is joke who will use 2500€ gpu for gaming?
Once more for less quipped individuals. You have fully working TU102 chip. You can either put it in gaming GPU and sell it with 12GB of VRAM for $1400. Or you can put it into Titan RTX, equip it with 24GB of VRAM and sell it for $2500. Does it start to click already?
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Fox2232:

Once more for less quipped individuals. You have fully working TU102 chip. You can either put it in gaming GPU and sell it with 12GB of VRAM for $1400. Or you can put it into Titan RTX, equip it with 24GB of VRAM and sell it for $2500. Does it start to click already?
1400 or 2500€ is not an option for gaming gpu.
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Petr V:

Only 1399€
Great, I'll save one € and hopefully get 10% more performance.
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Even if it was an RTX gaming card, which I still doubt, nobody in their right mind would buy it now tbh... save the money for next year's product unless you don't plan to grab it then.
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ttnuagmada:

What part of "the extra memory is the selling point of the Titan/Quadro" did you not understand? The very existence of the 2080S invalidates your argument.
Well. You have and product. And you can either sell it for $1400 or $2500 hundred at your desire as long as there is demand which there is. How weak minded someone must be if he sells it for $1400 only? And yes, I had to rewrite this post twice just to avoid infraction points. - - - - Full TU102 that is power efficient goes into Quadro, ends up with base clock of 1440MHz with 260W TDP. ($6300) Full TU102 that is not power efficient goes into Titan RTX that has base clock of 1350MHz and TDP 280W. ($2500) Full TU102 sold for PR reasons as gaming with whatever parameters for base clock and TDP goes for... $1400.
Petr V:

1400 or 2500€ is not an option for gaming gpu.
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