Intel Xeon Broadwell-EP Could Launch at the end of the Month ?
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Koniakki
There's go a month's paycheck for that "possible" 8core Broadwell. No regrets tho!
Nice I must start looking for someone to sell my 5820k! :thumbup:
Bishiff
That shouldn't be a problem 🙂
BLEH!
Maybe a worthy upgrade, just maybe...
Koniakki
Maybe. Its not that easy since no one would "need" it since all X99 owner have a 5820k or up CPU, compared to 1155/1150/1151 which many "lower-end" CPU owners(non-k etc) wanted to upgrade or something.
Only way is to find someone who wants to get it just to save some cash on the new build. That would be my guess.
I will list it locally when the time comes and fingers crossed. :P
Undying
What is this CPU? Some variation of Broadwell-E 5950X?
Ieldra
Same. Come to think of it we have very similar computers, are you WCing your gpu ? How did you clock so high :P voltage ?
GeniusPr0
Still no games to warrant >4 cores. I'll rebuy when that's necessary.
My rendering days are over. 😎
Koniakki
Just noticed your specs! Quite similar! :P
Here's my current setup. Temps a bit higher than my previous case(HAF-X) but no worries.
Guru3D has a dedicated Rig thread. We would love to see yours.
WC: Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 480 D5/UT60
-=The Guru of 3D rig gallery rev.2 Part 9=-
Volts at 4.5Ghz are 1hr OCCT stable@1.233v but I have it at 1.256v just for peace of mind.
Never had a OC crash/bsod related besides when stability testing(afair atleast). :thumbup:
Ieldra
That's very pretty! Are you using some kind of pci-express slot extension, how is your graphics card in that position 😛
Seriously weird how similar our computers are haha, I'm running 1.23v on cpu core, 1.27 on cache
I was asking about your gpu clocks though, I assume you have Samsung memory so you have more oc headroom on the core. My gpu sometimes seems stable even at 1520 but there's always a chance driver crashes.
Max 100% stable is 1490\8200 1.243v, bios modded for no power limit
Ieldra
That's very pretty! Are you using some kind of pci-express slot extension, how is your graphics card in that position 😛
Seriously weird how similar our computers are haha, I'm running 1.23v on cpu core, 1.27 on cache
I was asking about your gpu clocks though, I assume you have Samsung memory so you have more oc headroom on the core. My gpu sometimes seems stable even at 1520 but there's always a chance driver crashes.
Max 100% stable is 1490\8200 1.243v, bios modded for no power limit
Koniakki
Oh! I love my Xtreme, thats for sure. Memory OC wise can't really do much over 4100(8200 effective) but the core does quite well.
Although I have seen some go over 1600Mhz with these cards, as I said I'm quite happy with my clocks.
"Stock" volts@1.2, no power limit it goes around 1540-1550Mhz but the weird thing which I don't know if its ASIC related(73%) but it doesn't seem to scale well with voltage. I can get only 30-40ish Mhz with 1.243v.
Ieldra
It's not so weird, gm200 huts a voltage wall very quickly, you need extreme cooling to get past it , there was a nice thread about it somewhere.
I'm going to buy thermal pads and replace the ones on the board, want to see how my vrms will react to better dissipation.
Speaking of case cooling, was wondering if you could advise me. I have a phanteks enthoo pro with one 200mm intake at the front, 3 140mm exhaust fans top, one 140mm exhaust at back. My NH-D15 is sucking air from the front side and blowing it towards the back exhaust.
Should I move one of the top exhausts and use it as a bottom intake or do you think it'll mess with the airflow from the gpu (which goes down)
Valken
Will there be EDRAM included? If so, seriously consider it then!
Ieldra
Don't think so
Neo Cyrus
Or wait until the end of the year to see how Zen does. If rumours are right at least one server part will be 16 cores with 2 threads per core.
What practical use would EDRAM have for you? And no it's highly unlikely that it'd have any being a server part. Only oddball parts with Iris derived iGPUs have EDRAM, like the i7-5775C.
Ieldra
Yeah I only see EDRAM being on die with integrated graphics, which I highly doubt the consumer Broadwell-E parts will have; mainly because X99 boards don't have video outputs :P
I think he was referring to EDRAM as some kind of L4 cache but I don't honestly know how useful that would be, in fact I don't know the latency or throughput of EDRAM vs SRAM used for L1/L2/L3
Valken
I thought the EP chips were all ENTHUSIAST class chips, not server which is what the Xeons would be.
So as a workstation, power user chip, we should compare these results of both 4 GHZ Broadwell vs Haswell in the below apps (normalized to Haswell @ 100):
http://www.hardware.fr/getgraphimg.php?id=195&n=1
My Haswell only clocks up to 4.4 GHZ on all 4 cores, so that is only 10% gain.
Besides Crysis and X-Plane, Broadwell with EDRAM @ 4 GHZ performed 15-20% better in all those games tested.
ARMA is a big game for me and 20% gain is something to look forward to. Hence the question about EDRAM.
Ieldra
It this using iGPU ? I sincerely doubt you'll get anywhere near 20% vs haswell in real world, but I'd love it to be true.
Everyone seems to suggest that selling early and buying new products is the most cost effective way of upgrading, so I'm ready to sell my 2 month old 5820k and 6 month old 980Ti at a moment's notice :P:banana:
-Tj-
No igpu or edram aka l4.. those are both 5775c and edram l4 helps mostly by igpu. A little by normal apps too, but from what i saw l4 is strictly here because of igpu.
Valken
Sorry to go OT a bit but it is related:
Broadwell with DDR3-1666 vs Skylake DDR-2666 with 980 OC - Factory clock
Default vs OC'ed cpus in ARMA 3.
About 10-15% gains. Same DDR, vs Haswell or ~ 5-8% vs Skylake with DDR2666.
If you scroll through the website, its more like 20% in GTA 5 vs Haswell.
Like I said, I'm interested in a better architecture mainly for ARMA 3 because most other games can improve by GPU alone, yet ARMA 2 and ARMA 3 is pure CPU.
Edit - Hilbert actually posted the cpu cache info from a previous news posting with 32 + 32 + 256 + 45 meg cache!!!! Really curious how that performs vs the current Broadwells.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-xeon-e5-2600-v4-18-core-broadwell-ep-was-on-sale-on-ebay-for-999-usd.html
